The Endgame Labyrinth

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Kagari wrote:

I wasn't a big fan of the lab but this one seems to add an enormous RNG layer just to access it, which i'm afraid will be as bad as atziri access.
Just thinking that i'll have to let the RNG decide for all my chars to be able to get the last 2 points makes me sick already.

RNG to enter, then a stupid RNG wall for enchants.

Every time we roll an enchant it should be stored in a codex or something in our hideout then puting an helmet/glove/boot inside this book let us select the enchant we want among all those we unlocked.

We would still need to run this chore 300+ times but at least if we change build we can change the enchant without having to think about this tedious enchant any more.

It´s a great idea. Everyone should support this instead of complaining!

I would say no "codex" but what about new master? And yeah .. he would collect even more recipes in the future (not just enchants from lab) !

i dont buy that vocal minority bullshit

none of my friendlist is in lab everytime i log in

labrace numbers

2 ppl hc
12 ppl phc
39 psc

would be awesome if this game had only 100 player

you have 26 pages with 70% labhate each page

thats never a small minority

so stop using that argument

I never died in labs after I become familiar with the mechanics. IMO the lab itself is not that bad. 4000 life acro/phase acro is safe enough in most of the situations in merc lab (except Elemental Essence phase. He could easily one shot me at 5k life if any golems reach him. It's not that difficult to kill them before that if you are ranged and familiar with the fight, but good luck trying it if you are melee.)

I still think lab is a bad thing in PoE though. It's not about difficulty, it's about:

1. Efficiency;
Lab is tedious compared to maps, if you died or d/c during the process, try again. Unlike killing monsters, dodging traps does not give loot. The enchantment is too RNG gated and most people cannot farm it as efficently as maps.

2. Risk vs Reward;
You are never safe in the Lab since the traps will always one or two shot you. If Path of Exile is a single player game, then Lab is just a Sen's Fortress in Dark Souls. However, this is an online game, lag spikes and hiccups will be your undoing and it's nearly impossible to mitigate the risk. Since it's not rewarding, why bother doing it more than once for ascendancy points.

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Rakiii wrote:

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Kagari wrote:

I wasn't a big fan of the lab but this one seems to add an enormous RNG layer just to access it, which i'm afraid will be as bad as atziri access.
Just thinking that i'll have to let the RNG decide for all my chars to be able to get the last 2 points makes me sick already.

RNG to enter, then a stupid RNG wall for enchants.

Every time we roll an enchant it should be stored in a codex or something in our hideout then puting an helmet/glove/boot inside this book let us select the enchant we want among all those we unlocked.

We would still need to run this chore 300+ times but at least if we change build we can change the enchant without having to think about this tedious enchant any more.

It´s a great idea. Everyone should support this instead of complaining!

I would say no "codex" but what about new master? And yeah .. he would collect even more recipes in the future (not just enchants from lab) !

Best idea so far.

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DarkHound wrote:

So what's happening with the bs that is hybrid builds in the lab? Have yet to hear anything beyond the initial promise of it being fixed. Quit perandus cause of the damn insta gib the moment i touch anything.

Just to keep this visible, they are reducing ES to be 60% of life, so you take less damage when ES is calculated into the equation.

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ventiman wrote:

i dont buy that vocal minority bullshit

none of my friendlist is in lab everytime i log in

labrace numbers

2 ppl hc
12 ppl phc
39 psc

would be awesome if this game had only 100 player

you have 26 pages with 70% labhate each page

thats never a small minority

so stop using that argument

But it's true, what are you basing your argument on? We'er basing it on GGGs numbers. They can see how many people do labs.

Why are my ascendancy points gated behind the lab?

The labs would be nice optional content why are they forced on everyone?

Hate the lab. In a game with desync and whatever the hell you call lagging in Lock-Stop Mode (stuttering and fast forwarding?) this is like the exact opposite of appropriate content.

This content update is turning out to be the worst so far... and 2.0 was pretty lame lol.

So, if the fragment opens six portals, can I complete six lab runs, or do they disappear after the first successful run?

How about give people free 6 points ascendancy and gated the last 2 behind endgame lab?.

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Maxasaki wrote:

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Rakiii wrote:

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Kagari wrote:

I wasn't a big fan of the lab but this one seems to add an enormous RNG layer just to access it, which i'm afraid will be as bad as atziri access.
Just thinking that i'll have to let the RNG decide for all my chars to be able to get the last 2 points makes me sick already.

RNG to enter, then a stupid RNG wall for enchants.

Every time we roll an enchant it should be stored in a codex or something in our hideout then puting an helmet/glove/boot inside this book let us select the enchant we want among all those we unlocked.

We would still need to run this chore 300+ times but at least if we change build we can change the enchant without having to think about this tedious enchant any more.

It´s a great idea. Everyone should support this instead of complaining!

I would say no "codex" but what about new master? And yeah .. he would collect even more recipes in the future (not just enchants from lab) !

Best idea so far.

Amazing Idea !!!!