Feedback and Suggestions - Ascendancy points can be rewarded out of Labyrinth. Lab is forced just to have a build - Forum

" Tin_Foil_Hat wrote: This just in, you dont need an ascendancy class to play the game. Ascendancy points became mandatory for a build the day they were introduced. You're basically claiming that you don't need to place any skill points to play the game. Go on, show me a build that clears maps without a single skill point placed. " Tin_Foil_Hat wrote: " Raudram wrote: I really don't understand why are people complaining about this when Izaro is actually pretty balanced compared to garbage like Act 4 bosses. Fully buffed Izaro is easier than Malachai in Merciless, not even joking. merc mala has nothing critical for a build gated behind him, so he's irrelevant to the discussion as a whole. [s]only mindless sheep think labyrinth is OK to have in PoE.[/s] okay nevermind labyrinth, fix dx9 blackscreen instead...	Posted by mynameisonlyforthegods#2781 on Apr 16, 2016, 8:20:41 PM Quote this Post
" mynameisonlyforthegods wrote: " Tin_Foil_Hat wrote: This just in, you dont need an ascendancy class to play the game. Ascendancy points became mandatory for a build the day they were introduced. You're basically claiming that you don't need to place any skill points to play the game. Go on, show me a build that clears maps without a single skill point placed. " Tin_Foil_Hat wrote: " Raudram wrote: I really don't understand why are people complaining about this when Izaro is actually pretty balanced compared to garbage like Act 4 bosses. Fully buffed Izaro is easier than Malachai in Merciless, not even joking. merc mala has nothing critical for a build gated behind him, so he's irrelevant to the discussion as a whole. They arent mandatory, theyre extra, stop spewing bullshit. If your build worked before Ascendancy without Ascendancy points it works just fine now without them. Absolutely nothing changed mechanically or anything that would affect builds that worked just fine with 2.2 hit, sorry to break your delusion there buddy. Harvest sucks! But look at my decked out gear two weeks in! Labyrinth salt farm miner. "But my build diversity" , "Game is too hard!" - Meta drone playing the same 1-3 builds for years.	Posted by Tin_Foil_Hat#0111 on Apr 16, 2016, 8:48:45 PM Quote this Post
" Tin_Foil_Hat wrote: They arent mandatory, theyre extra, stop spewing bullshit. If your build worked before Ascendancy without Ascendancy points it works just fine now without them. Absolutely nothing changed mechanically or anything that would affect builds that worked just fine with 2.2 hit, sorry to break your delusion there buddy. sigh, forum dwellers. you can argue that anything and everything in this game is "extra". don't you see how silly you're making yourself look, claiming that quest rewards that give you access to features that you otherwise wouldn't have, are only extra? lol, so cute :) [s]only mindless sheep think labyrinth is OK to have in PoE.[/s] okay nevermind labyrinth, fix dx9 blackscreen instead...	Posted by mynameisonlyforthegods#2781 on Apr 16, 2016, 8:58:18 PM Quote this Post
" mynameisonlyforthegods wrote: " Tin_Foil_Hat wrote: They arent mandatory, theyre extra, stop spewing bullshit. If your build worked before Ascendancy without Ascendancy points it works just fine now without them. Absolutely nothing changed mechanically or anything that would affect builds that worked just fine with 2.2 hit, sorry to break your delusion there buddy. sigh, forum dwellers. you can argue that anything and everything in this game is "extra". don't you see how silly you're making yourself look, claiming that quest rewards that give you access to features that you otherwise wouldn't have, are only extra? lol, so cute :) Its extra. Also, quest rewards arent extra, theyre part of the core game and you cannot progress without them, nice try though there with the shit logic though buddy. You might as well be saying that level 100 is required but since you dont want to build past 85 you should just get 15 free points because its locked behind mapping. Your logic is shit, literally. Edit - Also find it hilarious how youre ignoring that you think builds somehow broke even though they were perfectly functional before ascendancy without the points with no game mechanic changes. 10/10 though for effort though buddy. Edit 2 - Also funny how you know im right soo you rely on a generic forum dweller "insult". You lost the argument buddy. Harvest sucks! But look at my decked out gear two weeks in! Labyrinth salt farm miner. "But my build diversity" , "Game is too hard!" - Meta drone playing the same 1-3 builds for years. Last edited by Tin_Foil_Hat#0111 on Apr 16, 2016, 9:09:32 PM	Posted by Tin_Foil_Hat#0111 on Apr 16, 2016, 9:01:31 PM Quote this Post
" Tin_Foil_Hat wrote: " mynameisonlyforthegods wrote: " Tin_Foil_Hat wrote: They arent mandatory, theyre extra, stop spewing bullshit. If your build worked before Ascendancy without Ascendancy points it works just fine now without them. Absolutely nothing changed mechanically or anything that would affect builds that worked just fine with 2.2 hit, sorry to break your delusion there buddy. sigh, forum dwellers. you can argue that anything and everything in this game is "extra". don't you see how silly you're making yourself look, claiming that quest rewards that give you access to features that you otherwise wouldn't have, are only extra? lol, so cute :) Its extra. Also, quest rewards arent extra, theyre part of the core game and you cannot progress without them, nice try though there with the shit logic though buddy. You might as well be saying that level 100 is required but since you dont want to build past 85 you should just get 15 free points because its locked behind mapping. Your logic is shit, literally. Edit - Also find it hilarious how youre ignoring that you think builds somehow broke even though they were perfectly functional before ascendancy without the points with no game mechanic changes. 10/10 though for effort though buddy. Edit 2 - Also funny how you know im right soo you rely on a generic forum dweller "insult". You lost the argument buddy. my logic just isn't based on personal feelings, like yours is. what you're saying is merely an opinion, what i'm saying is an unbiased observation. You're wrong for opinions into an argument about facts, and therefore never even were in a spot to contest my points. come back after you learn the basics of argumentation :P [s]only mindless sheep think labyrinth is OK to have in PoE.[/s] okay nevermind labyrinth, fix dx9 blackscreen instead...	Posted by mynameisonlyforthegods#2781 on Apr 16, 2016, 9:13:49 PM Quote this Post
Your argument is entirely based on personal feeling or else you wouldnt be ignoring facts and bitching about labyrinth in other posts. 10/10, nice try though buddy, maybe you should learn how to argue instead of saying stupid shit like "hur dur i won the argument because you cant argue while i ignorantly act like nothing you said is factual when it actually is". lmao this fucking community i swear. Harvest sucks! But look at my decked out gear two weeks in! Labyrinth salt farm miner. "But my build diversity" , "Game is too hard!" - Meta drone playing the same 1-3 builds for years.	Posted by Tin_Foil_Hat#0111 on Apr 16, 2016, 9:15:35 PM Quote this Post
" Tin_Foil_Hat wrote: Your argument is entirely based on personal feeling or else you wouldnt be ignoring facts and bitching about labyrinth in other posts. 10/10, nice try though buddy, maybe you should learn how to argue instead of saying stupid shit like "hur dur i won the argument because you cant argue while i ignorantly act like nothing you said is factual when it actually is". lmao this fucking community i swear. i never ignore facts though. you're the one doing that? i hope you're not seriously thinking otherwise, because i'd get worried for you rl. also, it's a proven fact that i'm always right. if you argue against my points, you're just making yourself look dumber and dumber since my position is right, no matter what you say or think. can you leave now? don't embarrass yourself any further please :) [s]only mindless sheep think labyrinth is OK to have in PoE.[/s] okay nevermind labyrinth, fix dx9 blackscreen instead...	Posted by mynameisonlyforthegods#2781 on Apr 16, 2016, 9:18:09 PM Quote this Post
oh this again.. game difficulty did not change 2.1 -> 2.2 but somehow Asc points are now mandatory? this is a joke. and asking for freebies. if a build cannot clear the Lab without overleveling (ignoring this irrelevant 'like' or 'dislike') then the build is not worthy of ascending. Lab checks movement skills (both character and player) and defence/offence balance (some jokers claim that you need to run it naked so insta pots 'heal better'.. if someone is THAT BAD so he has to resort to this 'trick'.. then maybe better quit) btw Lab is not that much different from the run-run-run-shattereverything-ignore-loot-run-run right-click meta. people making a disproportionate issue out of few traps there and there are just..	Posted by sidtherat#1310 on Apr 17, 2016, 1:06:48 AM Quote this Post
About labyrinth being optional https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwi6U7MojDQ#t=39m20s Get rekt biatches I'm a forum warrior, i was born to post, raised to defend my league. Now my post has been removed, chained and exiled by mods who Ban. Ban is my brother; i do not fear it. I see it in the eyes of men and beasts that i troll. It will take me to play the actual game when i am ready and i am not ready.	Posted by Pyrokar#6587 on Apr 17, 2016, 4:09:34 AM Quote this Post
" Pyrokar wrote: About labyrinth being optional https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwi6U7MojDQ#t=39m20s Get rekt biatches He never says they aren't optional. Next time pay attention. https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285 FeelsBadMan Remove MF from POE, make juiced map the new MF.	Posted by goetzjam#3084 on Apr 17, 2016, 4:56:07 AM Quote this Post