[2.4 VIDEO] #1 Pathfinder PHC - Blade Vortex flask build. Uber atziri video. Easy lvling

Hi,

I'm currently lvl 79 and have several issues i discovered during mapping and hope for advice to overcome these weakness;

1. I have issues with mana in minus regen map or hardhitting map which forced me to carry around a mana flask.

2. My curse linked vortex blade has shorter radius than main vortex blade causing mob to die before reaching me. This particularly concern me when i am low on mana in a situation where i killed the melee mob while tanking the range mob.

3. I cant sustain my vinktar/other flask charge in tough boss fight with no adds such as daresso

4. I have issues with leeching in party especially with my buddies when none of them is using warlord mark and double damage oriented curse is the main focus of their build.

Below is my gears so far;



My passive tree
(I havent picked up Vaal Pact yet)

Everything is self found so far.. withe xception to vinktar and atziri promise. I was lucky to get an exalted in my first map to buy a vinktar.
Last edited by mlvnk83#6685 on Sep 6, 2016, 12:19:38 AM
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mlvnk83 wrote:
Hi,

I'm currently lvl 79 and have several issues i discovered during mapping and hope for advice to overcome these weakness;

1. I have issues with mana in minus regen map or hardhitting map which forced me to carry around a mana flask.

2. My curse linked vortex blade has shorter radius than main vortex blade causing mob to die before reaching me. This particularly concern me when i am low on mana in a situation where i killed the melee mob while tanking the range mob.

3. I cant sustain my vinktar/other flask charge in tough boss fight with no adds such as daresso

4. I have issues with leeching in party especially with my buddies when none of them is using warlord mark and double damage oriented curse is the main focus of their build.

Below is my gears so far;



My passive tree
(I havent picked up Vaal Pact yet)

Everything is self found so far.. withe xception to vinktar and atziri promise. I was lucky to get an exalted in my first map to buy a vinktar.


Uh...you do realize you have a 10% Lightning Penetration Vinktar's with no source of Lightning damage, right? Don't buy things without understanding what they do. That flask is literally doing nothing for you, which is why you can't leech. You either need a Lightning Conversion or Added Lightning Vinktar, or to switch to a Phys to Lightning gem in your main BV.

You also need Vaal Pact. Not having it this late is silly.
Last edited by Glick#0775 on Sep 6, 2016, 12:27:35 AM
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Purexec wrote:
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poeblader wrote:

so what 4 skills do you get on the ascendant tree master herb master alch and bower?
also ive been using chaos golem you think lighting would be better? also again thanks for all the tips
heres my flask setup atm
Spoiler


Nature's Adrenaline, Master Surgeon, Master Herbalist, Veteran Bowyer

Get a Atziri's Promise. It'll boost your DPS and help you leech.
Try to get rid off the manaflask. Get more manareg or something.


ok cool ya I don't ever use the mana much lol do you think lightning golem is better then chaos? I will do the setup u suggested also is faster casting really better then spell echo? I lost 1k dps also the CwDT+IC+IncDur+LightGolem (or CwDT+IC+LightGolem+TempestShield which one do you prefer and would it be ok to just 3 link it?
Last edited by poeblader#3536 on Sep 6, 2016, 12:51:36 AM
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Glick wrote:

Uh...you do realize you have a 10% Lightning Penetration Vinktar's with no source of Lightning damage, right? Don't buy things without understanding what they do. That flask is literally doing nothing for you, which is why you can't leech. You either need a Lightning Conversion or Added Lightning Vinktar, or to switch to a Phys to Lightning gem in your main BV.

You also need Vaal Pact. Not having it this late is silly.

It still shocks nearby enemies, increasing DPS. But to use it to its fullest, you need PtL gem :)
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Ok i think i might have screwed up a bit there. Is getting the flat lighting damage on vinktar better or gem swap (physical to lightning / controlled destruction) and might have problem rerolling 4B1G on my evasion chest if i want to replace added fire with physical to lightning...
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poeblader wrote:

ok cool ya I don't ever use the mana much lol do you think lightning golem is better then chaos? I will do the setup u suggested also is faster casting really better then spell echo? I lost 1k dps also the CwDT+IC+IncDur+LightGolem (or CwDT+IC+LightGolem+TempestShield which one do you prefer and would it be ok to just 3 link it?


Yeah. I feel like additional cast&attack speed is one of the best things to get. Atleast when it comes to general mapping. When it comes to bosses probably Flame, Chaos or whatever. I don't know yet.

Yeah, Faster Casting is indeed better. Not only because Spell Echo reduces our damage but also because of the way Spell Echo functions. Spell Echo pretty much makes you cast the skill twice within the time of one cast, but you're still casting and are vulnerable because of that.
Faster Casting probably counters the downsides of Spell Echo but we won't use both now that we're capped at 20 stacks, so just Faster Casting it is. You'll see that you're going to be able to sneak in one curse-BV while spamming dps-BV which is a big plus for me.

I use CwDT+IC+IncDur+LightGolem


You could drop IncDur because you have the Endurance Charges from WM anyway. As long as you have CwDT+IC+Golem it's fine (remember the level restrictions)

Last edited by Purexec#0078 on Sep 6, 2016, 3:32:58 AM
Hey, thx for the build. You forgot to mention in "Gems and links" section of your guide that you use Hatred as aura to put in the ring.
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Purexec wrote:
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poeblader wrote:

ok cool ya I don't ever use the mana much lol do you think lightning golem is better then chaos? I will do the setup u suggested also is faster casting really better then spell echo? I lost 1k dps also the CwDT+IC+IncDur+LightGolem (or CwDT+IC+LightGolem+TempestShield which one do you prefer and would it be ok to just 3 link it?


Yeah. I feel like additional cast&attack speed is one of the best things to get. Atleast when it comes to general mapping. When it comes to bosses probably Flame, Chaos or whatever. I don't know yet.

Yeah, Faster Casting is indeed better. Not only because Spell Echo reduces our damage but also because of the way Spell Echo functions. Spell Echo pretty much makes you cast the skill twice within the time of one cast, but you're still casting and are vulnerable because of that.
Faster Casting probably counters the downsides of Spell Echo but we won't use both now that we're capped at 20 stacks, so just Faster Casting it is. You'll see that you're going to be able to sneak in one curse-BV while spamming dps-BV which is a big plus for me.

I use CwDT+IC+IncDur+LightGolem


You could drop IncDur because you have the Endurance Charges from WM anyway. As long as you have CwDT+IC+Golem it's fine (remember the level restrictions)



so can I ask how come you went to level 4 on cwdt? instead of leaving it level 1 I never really figured that out lol
also how do we handle reflect physical reflect I one shot myself lol
Last edited by poeblader#3536 on Sep 6, 2016, 6:43:37 AM
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poeblader wrote:


so can I ask how come you went to level 4 on cwdt? instead of leaving it level 1 I never really figured that out lol
also how do we handle reflect physical reflect I one shot myself lol


1) The higher your CWDT gem is, the higher the supported gems can be. The downside is that the amount of incoming damage required to proc it will go up. So level 4 is a common sweetspot that many people use.
I have played a much tankier character (Juggernaut) Where I took the level all the way to 11 or 12 or so. It just depends on what works for your build.
2) With instant leech from Vaal Pact. Plus basalt flask active. Plus Taste of Hate flask active. Plus Warlord's mark applied to the enemies that are reflecting at you. You really shouldn't die to reflect.
So the problem is probably that one of the above mentioned things is not active when you fight the reflect mob.
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DeathnTaxes wrote:
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poeblader wrote:


so can I ask how come you went to level 4 on cwdt? instead of leaving it level 1 I never really figured that out lol
also how do we handle reflect physical reflect I one shot myself lol


1) The higher your CWDT gem is, the higher the supported gems can be. The downside is that the amount of incoming damage required to proc it will go up. So level 4 is a common sweetspot that many people use.
I have played a much tankier character (Juggernaut) Where I took the level all the way to 11 or 12 or so. It just depends on what works for your build.
2) With instant leech from Vaal Pact. Plus basalt flask active. Plus Taste of Hate flask active. Plus Warlord's mark applied to the enemies that are reflecting at you. You really shouldn't die to reflect.
So the problem is probably that one of the above mentioned things is not active when you fight the reflect mob.


ya I don't have the uniq flasks yet :)

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