[2.4 VIDEO] #1 Pathfinder PHC - Blade Vortex flask build. Uber atziri video. Easy lvling

You weren't lying though @Borok
It gets really exhausting playing this build longer, as you have to keep your flasks up, fortify and 2 blade vortexes (main and curse one).

Still the build seems really fun and strong so far.

so what flasks should I be using as ci before I get rumi's/vinktars/hate

currently got a mana pot basalt and grantie and 2 life flasks that are useless since I swithed to ci lol
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vilesi wrote:
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santiago2013 wrote:
Hey, I dont understand something. Why would a ruby flask bring all 3 resistances up to 83?


Vinktar is a topaz flask and Taste of Hate is a sapphire flask, so Ruby brings the fire up too.


I see, thanks for the reply. Just one more thing, why do you keep tempest shield at lvl 2 if lvl 3 has a lvl 24 requirement? [Not an english native speaker, sorry :P]
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poeblader wrote:
so what flasks should I be using as ci before I get rumi's/vinktars/hate

currently got a mana pot basalt and grantie and 2 life flasks that are useless since I swithed to ci lol


Before I got the unique flasks, I ran Mana, Stibnite, Basalt, Granite or Jade, and Ruby (stupid Molten Shell on Goats is insane now).

I quickly got an Atziri's Promise to get some real leech, and then converted all of my currency to get to 2.5ex for a Rumi's. Definitely push that Rumi's asap, it makes the build go into god mode pretty quickly.


Here's my setup now, as an 86 Pathfinder on EHC:



Last edited by Glick#0775 on Sep 5, 2016, 8:17:10 PM
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Glick wrote:
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poeblader wrote:
so what flasks should I be using as ci before I get rumi's/vinktars/hate

currently got a mana pot basalt and grantie and 2 life flasks that are useless since I swithed to ci lol


Before I got the unique flasks, I ran Mana, Stibnite, Basalt, Granite or Jade, and Ruby (stupid Molten Shell on Goats is insane now).

I quickly got an Atziri's Promise to get some real leech, and then converted all of my currency to get to 2.5ex for a Rumi's. Definitely push that Rumi's asap, it makes the build go into god mode pretty quickly.


Here's my setup now, as an 86 Pathfinder on EHC:





ty for the info anyone else thing warlords mark is lackluster? I dunno maybe I'm alternation between the 2 bv's wrong what do you guys do? I'm not leaching near as much to go toe to toe with bosses also what is good dps for doing atzir's/izaro cause I'm sitting at 6k dps with
bv-aoe-crit damage-added fire-spell echo
and I'm 12k ish with bv-conentrated effect-spell echo-added fire-crit damage

also the fact that my main bv with increased aoe is bigger then the bv curse set up isn't mobs are dieing before I can leach or does that not matter?
Last edited by poeblader#3536 on Sep 5, 2016, 9:28:07 PM
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poeblader wrote:

ty for the info anyone else thing warlords mark is lackluster? I dunno maybe I'm alternation between the 2 bv's wrong what do you guys do? I'm not leaching near as much to go toe to toe with bosses also what is good dps for doing atzir's/izaro cause I'm sitting at 6k dps with
bv-aoe-crit damage-added fire-spell echo
and I'm 12k ish with bv-conentrated effect-spell echo-added fire-crit damage


So I played a LOT in the past 2 days. I'm at 9.1k ES, doing T8-10s and got enough currency to finally buy Vinktars once someone puts it up.

In the beginning I had some problems with the 2 BV setups, but it's just a matter of time. Once you've built up some muscle memory it's all fine.
(I charge up dps-BV and cast a WM-BV afterwards. Once I'm in the pack I spam dps-BV and re-cast WM-BV every like 5 seconds. There's no real downtime between packs most of the time. If the packs should be too strong I enter with as much charges up as possible and WB through it as many times as possible.)

When it comes to leech, yeah. Maybe I'm still too low on DPS but I can only facetank (T7+) with WM+Atziri+Basalt+Granite. Most of the time I don't have to, though. When you try to keep your charges and flasks up (especially with Master Herbalist. The poison is nice) you wreck most packs before they can even do anything.

You have to be careful with certain map mods. Even something simple like Enfeeble can fuck you over because you rely on leech.

Edit: It doesn't matter too much that the WM-BV AoE is smaller. I didn't have any issues so far.
Last edited by Purexec#0078 on Sep 5, 2016, 9:36:00 PM
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Purexec wrote:
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poeblader wrote:

ty for the info anyone else thing warlords mark is lackluster? I dunno maybe I'm alternation between the 2 bv's wrong what do you guys do? I'm not leaching near as much to go toe to toe with bosses also what is good dps for doing atzir's/izaro cause I'm sitting at 6k dps with
bv-aoe-crit damage-added fire-spell echo
and I'm 12k ish with bv-conentrated effect-spell echo-added fire-crit damage


So I played a LOT in the past 2 days. I'm at 9.1k ES, doing T8-10s and got enough currency to finally buy Vinktars once someone puts it up.

In the beginning I had some problems with the 2 BV setups, but it's just a matter of time. Once you've built up some muscle memory it's all fine.
(I charge up dps-BV and cast a WM-BV afterwards. Once I'm in the pack I spam dps-BV and re-cast WM-BV every like 5 seconds. There's no real downtime between packs most of the time. If the packs should be too strong I enter with as much charges up as possible and WB through it as many times as possible.)

When it comes to leech, yeah. Maybe I'm still too low on DPS but I can only facetank (T7+) with WM+Atziri+Basalt+Granite. Most of the time I don't have to, though. When you try to keep your charges and flasks up (especially with Master Herbalist. The poison is nice) you wreck most packs before they can even do anything.

You have to be careful with certain map mods. Even something simple like Enfeeble can fuck you over because you rely on leech.

Edit: It doesn't matter too much that the WM-BV AoE is smaller. I didn't have any issues so far.


reflex is owning me right now :/ question do you like do damage bv then curse bv or do you press curse bv then damage and just go back and forth? hmm I was thinking going veteran bower over master heb what do you suggest current I'm running master surgeon and natures boon

also I was just watching a pod cast with lifting nerd and pt said that you can cap cast speed and then you wont need spellecho/faster casting how the fuck do you do that lol
Last edited by poeblader#3536 on Sep 5, 2016, 10:04:21 PM
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poeblader wrote:

reflex is owning me right now :/ question do you like do damage bv then curse bv or do you press curse bv then damage and just go back and forth? hmm I was thinking going veteran bower over master heb what do you suggest current I'm running master surgeon and natures boon


When I would enter a pack without any charges I'd cast curse-BV first, but that shouldn't happen.

Maybe you don't have enough castspeed and that's why you're having problems with the two setups? I'd recommend running a CwDT+IC+IncDur+LightGolem (or CwDT+IC+LightGolem+TempestShield if you don't get the 3R1B) setup, so you automatically get the golem buff. Vaal Haste is nice as well.

Try to always have a Movespeed-Flask up as well. I'm not sure whether or not I'll switch it out later but I really benefit from being able to run through a map that fast. There's literally no downtime between packs, which I'd otherwise have.

Also, switch out Spell Echo for Faster Casting. After someone mentioned that Faster Casting would be better I tried it myself and came to the same conclusion.
Spell Echo can even be a problem because it takes more time to fully cast with it. Before switching to Faster Casting I had the problem that my curse-BV sometimes didn't cast because I was still casting the SpellEcho-BV.

I wouldn't use Nature's Boon honestly. I just don't like relying on RNG to not consume charges and the 1 charge every 3 seconds is a little bit underwhelming in my opinion. The only reason to pick Nature's Boon would be to get the -8%Eledmg. It's up to you.
I'd pick Herb over Bowyer simply because the poison is better for singletarget. Even in maps you'll encounter a few stronger packs you can't easily oneshot. I don't know, correct me if I'm wrong.

Last edited by Purexec#0078 on Sep 5, 2016, 10:17:19 PM
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Purexec wrote:
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poeblader wrote:

reflex is owning me right now :/ question do you like do damage bv then curse bv or do you press curse bv then damage and just go back and forth? hmm I was thinking going veteran bower over master heb what do you suggest current I'm running master surgeon and natures boon


When I would enter a pack without any charges I'd cast curse-BV first, but that shouldn't happen.

Maybe you don't have enough castspeed and that's why you're having problems with the two setups? I'd recommend running a CwDT+IC+IncDur+LightGolem (or CwDT+IC+LightGolem+TempestShield if you don't get the 3R1B) setup, so you automatically get the golem buff. Vaal Haste is nice as well.

Try to always have a Movespeed-Flask up as well. I'm not sure whether or not I'll switch it out later but I really benefit from being able to run through a map that fast. There's literally no downtime between packs, which I'd otherwise have.

Also, switch out Spell Echo for Faster Casting. After someone mentioned that Faster Casting would be better I tried it myself and came to the same conclusion.
Spell Echo can even be a problem because it takes more time to fully cast with it. Before switching to Faster Casting I had the problem that my curse-BV sometimes didn't cast because I was still casting the SpellEcho-BV.

I wouldn't use Nature's Boon honestly. I just don't like relying on RNG to not consume charges and the 1 charge every 3 seconds is a little bit underwhelming in my opinion. The only reason to pick Nature's Boon would be to get the -8%Eledmg. It's up to you.
I'd pick Herb over Bowyer simply because the poison is better for singletarget. Even in maps you'll encounter a few stronger packs you can't easily oneshot. I don't know, correct me if I'm wrong.



so what 4 skills do you get on the ascendant tree master herb master alch and bower?
also ive been using chaos golem you think lighting would be better? also again thanks for all the tips
heres my flask setup atm
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poeblader wrote:

so what 4 skills do you get on the ascendant tree master herb master alch and bower?
also ive been using chaos golem you think lighting would be better? also again thanks for all the tips
heres my flask setup atm
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Nature's Adrenaline, Master Surgeon, Master Herbalist, Veteran Bowyer

Get a Atziri's Promise. It'll boost your DPS and help you leech.
Try to get rid off the manaflask. Get more manareg or something.

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