Here's an idea for the new Currency Tabs: Add Perandus Coin to Currency Tabs (25K capacity)

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Rakiii wrote:
Just increase 1000 coins limit and problem solved


But then someone can make the argument to increase the stack limit on ALL currency, can they not? And we all know that is not going to happen because the idea of the new Currency Tabs was to bring more financial support to PoE's development, which is understandable because somebody has to keep that light bill going, and that is us, the players, 'by choice' (a difference between that and 'forced' monthly fees to play the game).

Come on, folks, GGG's business strategy does not take a brain surgeon to figure out. Not that I am bashing their business strategy (I support PoE), but that is why the stack limit on any currency will never be increased, not even for Perandus Coin.
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Last edited by HeavyMetalGear#2712 on Mar 24, 2016, 10:11:16 PM
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Necx wrote:
Why take time to implement icon and UI for something that will not be dropping after league ends anyhow?

Same with Eternal orbs. Yes they are currency but no they no longer drop..

Rhoa feathers is another that could be added but I understand why not..




Take it as a sign.. If they put the coins in the UI they would be staying perm.


Your response is the most logical response I have seen here, because for the most part, you are right about the Eternal Orbs and Rhoa Feathers in the point you made (even I said something about Eternal Orbs on Page 1).

However, the only thing I do not agree with is your assumption saying Perandus Coin is going to be discontinued after the Perandus Leagues end. How are you so sure?

What about the concept of Rogue Exiles that originated in the Anarchy League? That concept was not done away with when Anarchy ended because the general playerbase loved the idea. Furthermore, the concept of Tormented Spirits came from the Tormented League and is here to stay. Therefore, who is to say the same will not happen with Cadiro and Perandus Chests, except with lower spawn rates for Cadiro and Perandus Chests?

My point is not every concept is done away with when a particular league ends. Some league-only concepts are / have been incorporated into every new league, and I am sure the concept of Cadiro and his Perandus Chests spread throughout Wraeclast will be here to stay with a few adjustments.

It would be foolish for GGG to abolish the Perandus concept entirely given the fact spawn rates can be adjusted to make it fair game. In my honest opinion, Cadiro in PoE reminds me a lot of The Merchant from Resident Evil 4 (others say Gheed from D2), and that is what makes him really cool. Simply put, Cadiro's disposition adds character to PoE that makes the game unique in its own way, and to just erase his existence from Wraeclast will make PoE's gameplay experience a little empty. You naysayers out there, though, just don't know it yet because Cadiro has not been taken away.
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Last edited by HeavyMetalGear#2712 on Apr 8, 2016, 1:33:07 AM
Coins have no place in the core of the game, I don't have the currency thread bookmarked, when Chris went into detail of how they established a system that wasn't gold based, but literally that whole thread is exactly why coins are fine as a league mechanic, but absolutely terrible for the core of the game.



Following your suggestion of currency, anything that is used that holds value to trade is currency, like atziri pieces, maps, divination cards, ect. Just because you view it as currency and its classification under the game is currency (so people don't hide it by default) doesn't mean it should or will be added to the game.

You care so much for this shitty topic I can't even begin to express how stupid that is in reality, if you don't like your currency tab because it doesn't allow for your coins, then ask for a refund don't just QQ here and attempt to shit on anyone that suggest your view is just clouded and full of shit.

A lot of what cadiro does is very similar to what divination cards were suppose to do. Some of his mechanics can be moved onto something a bit more appropriate for the game, like moving the leveling unique aspect of his encounter onto low level masters, which most people skip currently. As far as his unique items they could delegate out some of the mid tier unqiues as a possible reward for completing master missions. As for the more rare ones that is currently a toss up IMO. With how cheap unique items are the whole experience of encountering him with anything short of a headhunter or skyforths is just underwhelming. Perhaps if it wasn't pure items they move or allow some divination cards for completing higher end master missions, giving you a piece without forcing you to grind "coins" and because it isn't a complete item and you get a piece overall they could better restrict what is given out. You have to be a super casual player to like cadiro and think what he offers as in coins in exchange for items is good for PoE, because it absolutely isn't and lacks and depth of meaning and purpose with the coins for items design. Then again we know you are a causal player, so of course you love what he has to offer.
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HeavyMetalGear wrote:
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Char1983 wrote:
They no longer drop, but they still exist.

Besides, these tabs are great, but feel so mandatory that it becomes harder and harder to think of this game as free-to-play. Yes, I know, whining, but its what it feels like to me.

Just call it a "free extensive demo" because that is what it is.


I still do not think discontinued currency types like Eternal Orbs should be added to the new Currency Tabs for reason being not enough players have ever saw one to begin with so as to cause a Stash space issue, that and if GGG were to add a discontinued currency type to the Currency Tabs, it would mislead the general playerbase into think they still drop when they do not.


Don't you think that GGG would have added Perandus Coins to the new Currency Tabs, if they were going to add them to the core game after this league ends ?

I am only guessing here, granted, but I believe that Perandus Coins will not exist past the Perandus League.

So by your own logic, since it might be a dicontinued currency soon, it shouldn't be added to the currency tabs by reasons you yourself provided.

And since neither of us know if that's actually going to happen, why not wait with such threads until we know for sure ? ;-)
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I am under the impression that the coins weren't added to currency tab because they aren't going to add to the game after league, which is dumb. Coins allow another avenue for which to trade by and this game has always had a severe issue with regulating inflation in this game but also Cadiro allows better chance for SF players and that is bloody awesomely about friggin time. POE has always had an issue with SF and trading it would be nice to see this gap get finally resolved.

I love the addition of Cadiro compared to the last few leagues of utter boredom non balanced crap. Truly though this league, this new currency tab are skirting the borders of what GGG promised not to do, p2w, its like how far can we go before backlash gets us?

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Probably been stated multiple times but let's summarize it.

** Perandus coins won't be added because they are part of a league specific mechanic.
** Eternal Orbs won't be added because they are no longer supported.

All items in this game are currency though. Maybe the tab should have been given a more fitting name.

I see a divination card tab being added in the future as well.
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Reinhart wrote:
Probably been stated multiple times but let's summarize it.

** Perandus coins won't be added because they are part of a league specific mechanic.
** Eternal Orbs won't be added because they are no longer supported.

All items in this game are currency though. Maybe the tab should have been given a more fitting name.

I see a divination card tab being added in the future as well.


Perandus coins will be added if they pass the test. Just like shrines, tormented spirits, etc... Maybe they will be farmed in standard thorugh zana mod.

Like eternals they are not added to standard currency tab because they do not drop. They are not added in Perandus curr. tab either, because this means less code to write.
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There are now five additional slots that can hold 5000 of any type of currency item (including Perandus Coins).


Why, thank you, Qarl, for confirming coins are currency :)
Perandus COINS are not a currency? What? ;___;
They are nothing more, than a currency. Orbs are a currency and crafting items.

Coins not being crafting items doesn't make them non-currency. wtfbbq.
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TheAnuhart wrote:
How I'd have done it.
Increase stack limit to 1,000. xx GGGold.
Increase stack limit to 2,000. xx GGGold.
Increase stack limit to 5,000. xx GGGold.
Increase stack limit to 10,000. xx GGGold.
Requires the earlier purchase to enable.

Or.

Increase stack limit to 1,000. xx GGGold.
Increase stack limit by 1,000. xx GGGold.
Requires first increase to 1,000, then adding 1,000 each time.

Simples. No horrible, controversial, GGG designed tab.




And we are already at version 2.0 of the stash tab.

Everything they wanted to accomplish for both themselves and for players would have been better and easier achieved by MTXing stack sizes. They could even have made more money, it would be suited to more people as the players would pick the level of MTX their currency required and could incrementally expand on it.

Every issue players have pointed out with the tabs (P2W claims aside) would never have been an issue. We are already at stash tab version 2.0 to attempt to better the design and please players more when the issues only ever were because it's done as a currency tab.

They wanted to increase currency stacking and sell MTX, why do any different than simply that.

Casually casual.

Last edited by TheAnuhart#4741 on Apr 7, 2016, 3:11:29 AM

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