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What would the optimal cannibal fire-eater supports be ?

Last edited by Kendo_PoE#6950 on Apr 27, 2017, 7:36:59 AM
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Kendo_PoE wrote:
What would the optimal cannibal fire-eater supports be ?



Spell Echo, Minion Damage, Controlled Destruction, Elemental Focus, Fire Penetration.

GMP might be less useful since you are probably not running those for clear speed. Iirc Faster projectiles doesn't increase their targeting range.

Spectres feel so cheesy. Just 3 Spectres in a 4-link are enough to do guardians quite comfortably.

Btw, what do you guys use in the weapon slot? I'm wondering if there's something more fitting than a Pledge of Hands.
For the Carnage Chieftains, the Blood Magic Gem is still recommended so they spam the Rage ability.
I'll admit I didn't read through 64 pages of replies, I did a google check though...
Doesn't this work anymore?
I notice a slight increase with BM gem but can hardly sustain my Frenzy charges this way.
What would be ideal 3L - 4L for them now?
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Canuberon wrote:
For the Carnage Chieftains, the Blood Magic Gem is still recommended so they spam the Rage ability.
I'll admit I didn't read through 64 pages of replies, I did a google check though...
Doesn't this work anymore?
I notice a slight increase with BM gem but can hardly sustain my Frenzy charges this way.
What would be ideal 3L - 4L for them now?
I've tried blood magic, clarity and vaal clarity but can't tell if they any effect at all. If it's there it's probably minuscule. AI seems to be the main limiter now.

They really need more than a 3 link; raise spectre, minion life, minion and totem elemental resistance. The best 4th link is probably fortify or maaybe Inc AoE (haven't tried it since the changes). Alternatively putting them in a 4 link with a golem or animate guardian could work.

Spell Echo makes them repeat the spell but not grant an additional frenzy charge so it's worthless.
My supporter items: Victario's Charity and The Forsaken
Which is better gem for slashed miscreation when you have united in dream weapon, Poison gem or Void Manipulation Gem?
why would you use poison gem when united in dream already has poison. void manip, yes
Accessability is also a key factor. The spectres that are the easiest to get are Towering Figments.
You just go Merciless Daresso Waypoint, and go left and right, there are always two there.
I use them at the moment because they are so damn tanky. I use Montreguls Grasp as well but my Zombies
die more often than my Spectres. In fact the Spectres rarely die. The Zombies are also linked with fortify. THe Spectres aren´t, yet they have more survivability.
Tankiest Spectres I ever had. Easiest to get.
crossing my fingers for some good physical spectres in this next xpac. Have a cool build idea and it wuld work so well with some good physical spectres. Maybe blade flurry mobs or some good archers. Even decent "melee" can rule as long as ai is not al clunky.

Also persistent spectres! Finaly!

3.0 is gonna change a lot for summoners if we finally get persistant spectres. that alone will open up the possibility of getting specres we never even considered before.

i have a question about current situation in 2.6

it says on the wiki:

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Taking existing Spectres into a map adds them to the list of spawnable corpses via Desecrate if allowed by the map, even if there are no mobs of that type present. This seems to be related to the default sub-set above. E.g. taking Flame Sentinels into a white Temple will allow their corpses to be spawned by Desecrate. Note that mods changing the spawn-type such as Bipedal will prevent Flame Sentinel corpses from spawning. Also note that some instances will be more difficult than others to obtain the matching corpses, probably because the the actual monster variety in the map is higher.


Flame Sentinel: (T8) Pier, Temple, (T13) High Gardens, Scriptorium

does it only work on these listed maps if i want higher level flame sentinels and wanna do the desecrate trick?
No, it works on a lot more maps. I often shape quay to get t15 easy. And i belive al the guardians exept minotaur works with desecrate trick. There is also a long list of others. One thing to remember is that maps that has spesific monster spawn mods might block you from doing the desecrate trick.

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