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Can anyone make video with Merveil's Blessed? And this mobs can find only on map?
Last edited by TrueCorund#7272 on Oct 21, 2016, 8:18:51 PM
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I did have a question concerning Undying Grapplers. The guide you list are Inc aoe-minion damage-contr destr-ele focus-Hypothermia
I am confused about the actual effectiveness of hypothermia vs cold penetration and of course the logic behind pairing ele focus and hypothermia on the same link setup. By doing that you are simply unable to chill or freeze. Why would a setup that looks something like.... Inc AoE/conc effect(bosses) - minion damage - contr destr - Ele focus - Cold pen be less optimal? During the map you want to focus on killing as many enemies as possible so that is what the inc aoe is for. However for a few selected bosses where it actually matters you want high single target dps. Often some bosses resist cold and are straight up immune to chill or freeze anyway so why even bother running hypothermia or inc AoE unless the boss is susceptible to these statuses or has a lot of adds for inc AoE that you need to deal with? Just curious if anybody had any opinions on this as I've been playing around with setups for a while and cannot figure out what would be best on a necromatic aegis victario's charity setup. Alternatively to keep hypothermia why is it not better to run Inc aoe-conc effect-contr destr-minion dmg-hypothermia? |
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Something I definitely overlooked. I'll need to review all the links again. Its hard to pinpoint optimal links since builds can differ. Cold pen for example will be much more valuable for builds who do not EE or curse with frostbite. Using the immortalis belt can change things too.
While we are on the subject. iAOE + MinDmg + Controlled Dest + Hypothermia + Spellecho?? I was wondering if spell echo might be good here. They will discharge once and gain charges off the first discharge and that feeds the next discharge. Might be something worth trying. Other then that conc/coldpen is a good idea. iCrit might be good but they probably lose pcharges too quickly. Necronomicon: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617098
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The thing with discharge is that it only does damage if you have charges. I assume it follows the same logic as player used discharge so spell echo would do nothing for the actual discharge.
While yes there is a chance that they can gain enough charges to discharge again but the chance to gain a frenzy charge is 5% on hit. Meaning that you would need to generate 3 charges in pretty much less than half a second. Not to mention you still do less damage for all discharges. The power charge on kill effect of victario's is actually what I've found to be a nice bonus rather than something reliable but the main purpose of just not running echo or any "less damage" supports is that discharge is a skill that you want the biggest hit to cover the biggest area of the screen. Regular discharge builds work like this for faster clears and I see grapplers as no different (except you have 3-4 of them average). Charity means you don't need to invest into charge generation. Frenzy charges are 4x as effective on minions meaning that having 3 charges means you would have effectively have the stats of 12 charges. with each charge being 4% MORE damage well...that is 48% more damage on discharge and scaling that damage as high as possible means that your specters will run through, flicker strike (gains charges from SRS during this time) then clear the area with inc aoe discharge. On the topic of Hypothermia...Hypothermia is good if you run the inc aoe-conc effect-min dmg-contr destr-Hypothermia setup. This leaves out ele focus specifically so you can chill and freeze which are HUGE on big hits like discharge. The problem with this is that clearspeed is a little iffy with a smaller discharge and of course you would need to swap out inc aoe and hypothermia for ele focus and cold pen on bosses. Really, its super complicated and the only things I know for sure is that grapplers can function with support gems similarly to blade vortex. Don't bother linking extra cast speed or casts, just scale the damage to absurdity and you'll be good. I am not sure if the Extra Chaos/Cold damage you get from things like Vis Mortis/Grip of the council/Spirit offering count towards all specters or only specters with a specific physical ability. Those bonuses don't add to physical attacks so if it functions only on specters with physical damage then it goes to reason that grapplers benefit from them too on spells. |
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" Unless all three are bugged, they definitely apply to any attacks or spells that do physical damage. These are mods in the same form as Hatred. |
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" Late reply. I been trying to find these guys again in mineral pools or courtyard but they seem to never spawn for me anymore, its too bad b/c they are awesome spectres =/. Necronomicon: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617098
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I was able to record some footage of merveil blessed spectre. They are hard to find.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuxqOE2SQN0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obMovy4KaKA Necronomicon: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617098 Build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/409940 Summoner Dischord: https://discord.gg/XwWdSUa Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/zhoukon Last edited by mattc3303#7526 on Oct 29, 2016, 2:25:24 PM
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" Not bad. Cold version of flame sentinels. If only there was an easy way to get those. The same problem with every interesting spectre. Anyone tried the cold type of monsters that emerge from the ground and immediately use ele weakness and spam ice nova or vortex. They seem to have great ai and they always kill my flameblaster :) I don't remember the name of that monster. For flame sentinels: Links: MinDmg + Spell Echo + GMP + fasterproj + iAOE Why not controlled destruction instead of faster proj? 50% MORE damage is hard to beat. Last edited by kompaniet#2874 on Oct 29, 2016, 2:41:37 PM
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" Boiling ambusher. Sadly: " |
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" Why faster projectile? Isnt its damage increased, meaning aditive. Which usually is regarded as the less powerful more multiplicative option. Wouldnt controlled destruction for open maps and pierce for tight dungeons(catacombs and alike) be the better options? Or has faster projectiles has an usability/utility byound the pure damage, so it becomes over all better? Then, pls explain. |
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