Challenges... in Labyrinth

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silumit wrote:

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Char1983 wrote:

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mynameisonlyforthegods wrote:

And don't you fucking dare come in and say "but OPTIONAL MIMIMIMIMIMIMI I SO CLEVR".

Sorry, but challenges are very clearly optional. Ascendancy points, I can agree that they are needed for your character, but challenges? No.

Personally I think the outdoor-clears in Act2 Cruel are a lot more boring and annoying.

But at least they can be done once for sure and be happily forgotten. Enchant challenge, you can't just run it some fixed amount of times and be done with it, oh no, you have to pray to RNGesus.

You have to play game to complete game challange, how bad.

There are long and shrot challanges, do yo uwant only short easy challanges? Then they would not by challanges at all.

Also challanges are in game to give long goal. And sometime s they are not for people who spend 36 minutes per week in game.

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kamil1210 wrote:

You have to play game to complete game challange, how bad.

There are long and shrot challanges, do yo uwant only short easy challanges? Then they would not by challanges at all.

Also challanges are in game to give long goal. And sometime s they are not for people who spend 36 minutes per week in game.

Play - not bad. Pray - bad. I want deterministic(ally completable) challenges. Which is obviously too much to ask for.

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kamil1210 wrote:

You have to play game to complete game challange, how bad.

There are long and shrot challanges, do yo uwant only short easy challanges? Then they would not by challanges at all.

Also challanges are in game to give long goal. And sometime s they are not for people who spend 36 minutes per week in game.

I have 25 challenges completed so far. Silumit said it the best.

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silumit wrote:

Play - not bad. Pray - bad. I want deterministic(ally completable) challenges. Which is obviously too much to ask for.

I don't really mind the "unid this and that unique" challenge, because that's ACTUALLY a long-term challenge that I can complete no matter what, either by running maps and having those uniques drop or by selling stuff that drops and buying the uniques. Either way I'm absolutely certain that by the end of the league I WILL have that challenge done.

Enchants do not give that kind of assurance in the first place. I can't buy them to make sure I get the challenge. I can't pick the enchant I'm getting. It's all about random factors; like giving someone 10 dices and telling him that he has three months time to record a dice throw where he gets 10x 6's. There's no skill whatsoever involved, just luck. And 100% luck-reliant challenges are BAD, like mentioned above.

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I don't really mind the "unid this and that unique" challenge, because that's ACTUALLY a long-term challenge that I can complete no matter what, either by running maps and having those uniques drop or by selling stuff that drops and buying the uniques. Either way I'm absolutely certain that by the end of the league I WILL have that challenge done.

Enchants do not give that kind of assurance in the first place. I can't buy them to make sure I get the challenge. I can't pick the enchant I'm getting. It's all about random factors; like giving someone 10 dices and telling him that he has three months time to record a dice throw where he gets 10x 6's. There's no skill whatsoever involved, just luck. And 100% luck-reliant challenges are BAD, like mentioned above.

I actually hated buying challenges during talsman. And i wasn't complaining at all. I like perandus challenge way more. Since they're challenges, and they are optional i don't feel like people can complain at all.

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Ceri wrote:

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kamil1210 wrote:

sad truth 1: You need better PC and internet.

While that may be true in some cases, it absolutely is not the main problem. Plenty of people use high-end gaming PCs with fast internet connections and still have performance and stability issues.

I sadly can confirm this. I wasn't crashing at all before 2.2, and now I have weird DCs, lags, crashes and whatnot.
Still, potato, 200$ laptops complaining about fps drops is kinda funny. :V

Challenges be challenges... :V I much prefer running lab, than trying to buy shit-tier-1c uniques, that cost 1ex+ unidentified, cuz challenge. Or leveling up Zana to level, fucking, 8.
It is grindy, yes, but it isn't the worst, imo.

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HeliaXDemoN wrote:

Its serious people 15+ level over the lab level are coming here to say the lab is fine and easy?

boo

Yes? because this isnt day 2 of the league anymore? turns out people can level past an act 3 merci zone when its two weeks into a league.

who would have thunk aye?

A good portion of us actually did the lab at or around the target level.

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mynameisonlyforthegods wrote:

Enchants do not give that kind of assurance in the first place. I can't buy them to make sure I get the challenge. I can't pick the enchant I'm getting. It's all about random factors; like giving someone 10 dices and telling him that he has three months time to record a dice throw where he gets 10x 6's. There's no skill whatsoever involved, just luck. And 100% luck-reliant challenges are BAD, like mentioned above.

it is beyond obvious that the target goal of that challenge is not getting specific enchantments but rather doing the lab a ton. Most people read that kind of challenge for what it actually is > run the lab successfully 100 + times<

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Saltychipmunk wrote:

it is beyond obvious that the target goal of that challenge is not getting specific enchantments but rather doing the lab a ton. Most people read that kind of challenge for what it actually is > run the lab successfully 100 + times<

And they did this probably even to have heaps of Guinea pigs running lab lol

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Frattagli4 wrote:

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I don't really mind the "unid this and that unique" challenge, because that's ACTUALLY a long-term challenge that I can complete no matter what, either by running maps and having those uniques drop or by selling stuff that drops and buying the uniques. Either way I'm absolutely certain that by the end of the league I WILL have that challenge done.

Enchants do not give that kind of assurance in the first place. I can't buy them to make sure I get the challenge. I can't pick the enchant I'm getting. It's all about random factors; like giving someone 10 dices and telling him that he has three months time to record a dice throw where he gets 10x 6's. There's no skill whatsoever involved, just luck. And 100% luck-reliant challenges are BAD, like mentioned above.

I actually hated buying challenges during talsman. And i wasn't complaining at all. I like perandus challenge way more. Since they're challenges, and they are optional i don't feel like people can complain at all.

Going by your logic. Playing PoE is optional, no one can complain about anything in the game.

I so want to flame you right now. I swear some kids never think before posting.

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Perq wrote:

Challenges be challenges... :V I much prefer running lab, than trying to buy shit-tier-1c uniques, that cost 1ex+ unidentified, cuz challenge. Or leveling up Zana to level, fucking, 8.
It is grindy, yes, but it isn't the worst, imo.

Lol. Clearly you weren't there when masters were first introduced to the game. Back then was the REAL grind. Master leveling today is a joke, I'm almost at lvl 7 with Vagan without doing much else than a daily rotation and his quests when I see him in maps.

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Saltychipmunk wrote:

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mynameisonlyforthegods wrote:

Enchants do not give that kind of assurance in the first place. I can't buy them to make sure I get the challenge. I can't pick the enchant I'm getting. It's all about random factors; like giving someone 10 dices and telling him that he has three months time to record a dice throw where he gets 10x 6's. There's no skill whatsoever involved, just luck. And 100% luck-reliant challenges are BAD, like mentioned above.

it is beyond obvious that the target goal of that challenge is not getting specific enchantments but rather doing the lab a ton. Most people read that kind of challenge for what it actually is > run the lab successfully 100 + times<

And you are stiiiiilll missing the point. Even if you ran rinth 10,000 times, you couldn't be sure that you can complete the challenge. If I ran 10,000 maps I could buy unid'd uniques from nothing but vendoring rares and selling alts for ex.

Challenges are there to be completed, no? They don't hand out "nice try" medals for getting 11/12 enchantments as far as I know.

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mynameisonlyforthegods wrote:

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Frattagli4 wrote:

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I don't really mind the "unid this and that unique" challenge, because that's ACTUALLY a long-term challenge that I can complete no matter what, either by running maps and having those uniques drop or by selling stuff that drops and buying the uniques. Either way I'm absolutely certain that by the end of the league I WILL have that challenge done.

Enchants do not give that kind of assurance in the first place. I can't buy them to make sure I get the challenge. I can't pick the enchant I'm getting. It's all about random factors; like giving someone 10 dices and telling him that he has three months time to record a dice throw where he gets 10x 6's. There's no skill whatsoever involved, just luck. And 100% luck-reliant challenges are BAD, like mentioned above.

I actually hated buying challenges during talsman. And i wasn't complaining at all. I like perandus challenge way more. Since they're challenges, and they are optional i don't feel like people can complain at all.

Going by your logic. Playing PoE is optional, no one can complain about anything in the game.

I so want to flame you right now. I swear some kids never think before posting.

I think spoiled kids don't use reason before complaining. Of course Poe is optional as well so if an optional challenge is too insulting for thy majesty you can quit as well. What other kind of answer do you want princess? You have to cope with people that can have different opinions.

For example i skipped optional I'd challenges just because i disliked them. Can't you see some logic here?

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Frattagli4 wrote:

For example i skipped optional I'd challenges just because i disliked them. Can't you see some logic here?

Yeah, I do. What you're trying to say is that I should play the game the way you do. Pretty arrogant "logic" you got there.

Thanks, but no thanks. I play my own way.