SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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The_Reporter wrote:

From what I've seen in the beta thus far, Phrazz, it's more of the same.

Are you in the beta or are you air-chairing again?


Furthermore, the beta only has access to normal and cruel labs, you can't even do anything past that (i guess the map trials, but no point because you can't do that lab)

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The_Reporter wrote:

Of course I'm in. I'm a VIP.

So when you say more of the same you mean not really more of the same, but rather less?

Because there are less trials, the zones are shorter and you know all of the stuff they already covered in the dev maf post...

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goetzjam wrote:

The 3.0 changes won't make the lab anymore enjoyable if you have a hate for the content itself. If you find it "It's not about difficulty. Lab isn't difficult and is easily cheesed. It's always annoying, repetitive, simple minded and terribly designed."

That isn't something GGG can fix, unless they basically throw out all the work they did. They don't do that and have never done that before, when GGG has given every indication that isn't going to happen, either adjust your expectations or stay disappointed.


I also think its funny that you say the lab isn't hard or provides any struggle, but if that were the case we wouldn't be seeing post about izarro being too difficult or post on reddit where people die to traps :)

You're right, they probably won't ever "throw out their hard work", but I've yet to see anyone suggest throwing the lab out. This whole thread is (should've been) about alternatives or changes to make it a more enjoyable content. The lab will always be there for every person that want to run it - as many times as he/she wants.

Why is it funny that I have another view of things than some random guys over at reddit? Is it funny that you have another view of things than me regarding Donald Trump?

I've already said several times that I'm looking forward to test out the changes regarding the lab in 3.0. And I hope that GGG shares my definition of the word "significantly".

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The_Reporter wrote:

Of course I'm in. I'm a VIP.

You are a better man than me. I got a beta key and instantly gave it away. There was a time i would do anything for GGG, even playtest broken beta content for them. Since the implementation of the lab though... well, let's just say i don't feel inclined to do anything for them anymore.

That's a shame.

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The_Reporter wrote:

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Pyrokar wrote:

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The_Reporter wrote:

Of course I'm in. I'm a VIP.

You are a better man than me. I got a beta key and instantly gave it away. There was a time i would do anything for GGG, even playtest broken beta content for them. Since the implementation of the lab though... well, let's just say i don't feel inclined to do anything for them anymore.

I feel the same.

I explicitly used my key to see if the trials/lab shenanigans were going to remain the same nauseating thing they are currently.

More of the same mess.

You'll see when 3.0 is launched.

Care to do some videos of lab runs in 3.0 from your beta access you have?

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This whole thread is (should've been) about alternatives or changes to make it a more enjoyable content.

Alternatives aren't going to happen, GGG has stated this over and over. So at most you can look for changes, but no one is really discussing the changes, even shortening or streamlining the experience seems like not enough for the people that may have experienced it in 3.0, which means you can never satisfy people like yourself without caving in on game design.

Think of it as a picture, they painted a picture and you say you don't like it, does that really make GGG want to go over that picture again or continue to make the picture nicer, no it just drags them down, the whole thread is just a massive shitpost dragging down the mood of this forum, it used to have interesting discussion about mechanics, but now its just i dont like this aspect of the game change it for me completely or ill bitch until the end of time.

If I was devs I wouldn't read this post at all, nothing new or interesting has came from it in months.