SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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Zalhan2 wrote:

I am glad since you find the last fight trivial you are fine with removing it, since you feel the (rather easy) traps up to the final fight are the difficulty with the lab.

Not me, I firmly believe that both good and bad things should come in threes.

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Zalhan2 wrote:

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j33bus wrote:

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Zalhan2 wrote:

So you are saying no one builds a specific build for the LAB to run it fast and with minimal difficulty?

Posts that pretend the sky is red do more harm than good btw.

Sure there are, but those builds can't run it for other people, since you can't pay people to carry you through traps. You pay someone to kill Izaro for you.

Also let's admit that the lab is under 5% traps on the worse possible day, and not as big a deal as people make it out to be.

I am glad since you find the last fight trivial you are fine with removing it, since you feel the (rather easy) traps up to the final fight are the difficulty with the lab.

I don't understand how you could come to that conclusion from the words I said. I said that you don't make lab running builds to kill Izaro, you make them to trivialize traps, and move fast. You pay people to kill Izaro for you since you can't pay them to navigate traps. Also I said that the lab is mostly the same game with a small number of traps in it.

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Rippster wrote:

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Fruz wrote:

Remove a cool part of the game so that some whinning crybabies would just switch to whinning about something else ?

No thank you.

I don't think it's cool, I think it's boring and tedious, feels like a chore.

So why not make the Lab optional? You wanna run that mess, be my guest.

Problem solved.

Rippster, thank you for voicing your opinion on the boring and tedious labyrinth. It is a chore rather than fun for many others as well. You were already added to the list from the Changes to the Labyrinth thread. I'm transforming your entry in the list to full fledged list entry! (The "#" changed to a "o$".)

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Rippster started playing PoE far earlier than most of us and has donated more than most players. It is a great honor for all of us to witness him sharing his very valuable opinion on the boring and tedious labyrinth. The game is supposed to be fun not a chore. The labyrinth is a tedious and boring chore for many, this includes the opinion of the very important Rippster.

13th try, 3 deaths 10 disconnected.

It really feels like going to work when you really don't like your job!

Thanks ggg.

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mordicus wrote:

13th try, 3 deaths 10 disconnected.

It really feels like going to work when you really don't like your job!

Thanks ggg.

mordicus, thank you for voicing your opinion on the labyrinth that feels more like a job that we really don't like rather than a fun game like the rest of PoE. I've added your name to the list of people that have voiced a similar opinion at 880. As the list grows longer our voice grows stronger.

mordicus, here's your summary profile.

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mordicus, you're part of a growing brigade of people that have indicated they don't enjoy something about labyrinth. The list of 880 is significant. It proves that the people claiming that only a small handful of players have complained about labyrinth are completely wrong. It also shows that the paranoid conspiracy theorists that argue that the list is made up of primarily duplicate alt-accounts are being about as logical as a Loony Tunes Cartoon. Let's say that 1% of the people post here on the PoE forums. That would seem to indicate that 880/0.01=88,000 players in the general player base share our opinion. Or say 0.5% of the people post on the forums then 880/0.5%=176,000 in the general player base share our opinion. This would be a floor percentage because as is obvious, new people are being added consistently. Also note, that we don't know the percentage of players posting in the forums, I have to assume that GGG knows that percentage though.

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Turtledove wrote:

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Rippster wrote:

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Fruz wrote:

Remove a cool part of the game so that some whinning crybabies would just switch to whinning about something else ?

No thank you.

I don't think it's cool, I think it's boring and tedious, feels like a chore.

So why not make the Lab optional? You wanna run that mess, be my guest.

Problem solved.

Rippster, thank you for voicing your opinion on the boring and tedious labyrinth. It is a chore rather than fun for many others as well. You were already added to the list from the Changes to the Labyrinth thread. I'm transforming your entry in the list to full fledged list entry! (The "#" changed to a "o$".)

Here's Rippster's summary profile.

Joined:
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Total Forum Posts:
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Rippster started playing PoE far earlier than most of us and has donated more than most players. It is a great honor for all of us to witness him sharing his very valuable opinion on the boring and tedious labyrinth. The game is supposed to be fun not a chore. The labyrinth is a tedious and boring chore for many, this includes the opinion of the very important Rippster.

Donated. There it is again!

Buying Supporter Packs IS NOT a donation!

At this point, I'm inclined to donate 50 bucks to you, so you can hopefully invest in a dictionary. THAT would be a donation.

Stop misusing words to your advantage [Removed by Support]

Could you be more obvious?

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Xavathos wrote:

Buying Supporter Packs IS NOT a donation!

Actually, I have to disagree here, the supporter packs mean a certain amount of money, to support the game, which makes it more or less a donation.

Plus many bought the first supporter packs before the Mtx shop was rich with anything, not actually planning to buy much in the first place.

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The_Reporter wrote:

Somebody, donate that guy a snickers. Better?

I know that it can be hard, kind of like a Snickers commercial, but when someone becomes possessed by an illogical spirit, patience is required. If someone argues that a post "Lab is shit" is not a post in support of change then they have become temporarily possessed by an illogical spirit. We really should all chip in for a Snickers bar donation.

Just to be clear though, this is not a donation where we expect nothing in return. We make the donation and in return the illogical spirit will hopefully be exorcised for the betterment of the forum. I call it a donation though because it is to be voluntarily given. Obviously since a definition of a donation is that it is voluntarily given.