SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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He said it in a Lyoneye podcast ( 53 maybe, not sure ). He literally said it.
I might look for it after work if somebody else hasn't already.
And he said that they were already balancing around it I think.
The global life buff to monster was part of it.

It wasn't before ... 2.2.0 I think.
Now it is different.

He said its "not really optional". I mean its not by the metric that getting additional power for what is probably one of the easier things to do in the game is not optional.

In terms of balance, they've done very little on that regards, the monster life buff was mid tier maps only and the only other thing they did was added the special abilities some monsters now use, but you 1 shot them anyway so how would you know if they actually did anything new.


The idea that they have balanced around it is somewhat farfetched IMO, the nerf to max res from flask, slight mid tier monster life buff and thats just about it is hardly enough to makeup the difference of the massive power creep that AC expansion added.

One could argue that the new stuff guardians+shaper is balanced with AC classes more in mind, but it cant really be given the vast diversity that AC classes give you.

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Fruz wrote:

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aDuke wrote:

Uhmmm... where in- or outside the game can you get an impression of the game population ?

Steam charts.
Steam is not even half of the PoE population, but a global decrease woud have affected it too.
And we would have seen a reaction from GGG.

Thx Fruz, I didn't know that. I found this:
http://store.steampowered.com/stats/
Unfortunately, it only shows the figures of today. You sound like you have looked there in the past and say there has been no significant change, right ?

Thanks, Zaludoz, for articulating the problems with the lab so much more clearly and thoroughly than anyone else has been able or willing to do.

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aDuke wrote:

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Unfortunately, it only shows the figures of today. You sound like you have looked there in the past and say there has been no significant change, right ?

I have been checking this from time to time :
http://steamcharts.com/app/238960

Looks preeeetty high right now.

Was afk for some time, but holy crap we are on page 341. One of the most active and popular threads on the forum

@Zaludoz, great write up

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Jgizle wrote:

Where has Chris ever said AC is not optional.

In one of the podcast. It was even written in one of the announcements/patch notes (dont remember for sure now where) that they are trying to balancing the game around the AS points

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miljan wrote:

Was afk for some time, but holy crap we are on page 341. One of the most active and popular threads on the forum

@Zaludoz, great write up

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Jgizle wrote:

Where has Chris ever said AC is not optional.

In one of the podcast. It was even written in one of the announcements/patch notes (dont remember for sure now where) that they are trying to balancing the game around the AS points

Popular would indicate a large amount of people, not a large amount of post. This one is the later, not for former.

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goetzjam wrote:

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miljan wrote:

Was afk for some time, but holy crap we are on page 341. One of the most active and popular threads on the forum

@Zaludoz, great write up

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Jgizle wrote:

Where has Chris ever said AC is not optional.

In one of the podcast. It was even written in one of the announcements/patch notes (dont remember for sure now where) that they are trying to balancing the game around the AS points

Popular would indicate a large amount of people, not a large amount of post. This one is the later, not for former.

No its not. Its most popular because of the amount of different people that post in it.

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miljan wrote:

No its not. Its most popular because of the amount of different people that post in it.

Count the different amount of posters in this thread.

Compare that to any threads that have a lot of responses, you would be surprised.

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goetzjam wrote:

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miljan wrote:

No its not. Its most popular because of the amount of different people that post in it.

Count the different amount of posters in this thread.

Compare that to any threads that have a lot of responses, you would be surprised.

Trust me, I would not be surprised as that is simply not correct. The amount of different posters here is really big, especially as this is going for a long time now, so a lot of different people are posting.

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Fruz wrote:

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aDuke wrote:

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Unfortunately, it only shows the figures of today. You sound like you have looked there in the past and say there has been no significant change, right ?

I have been checking this from time to time :
http://steamcharts.com/app/238960

Looks preeeetty high right now.

A general caution and not any comment on Fruz's post, one thing to be careful of is reading too much into curve comparison recently with older parts of the chart because the old curve is based on an average of one point per month and the most recent part of the chart is weekly. (Hover over the graph with your mouse to see this.)