SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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goetzjam wrote:

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miljan wrote:

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gibbousmoon wrote:

Actually, I wasn't commenting on the content of goetzjam's comments. He referred to specific things said by GGG, that I haven't heard. Can someone point me to the source? I bolded the relevant parts to make it clearer.

(If they are accurate, then it's great news from where I stand. I'd rather see the labyrinth fixed than abandoned.)

You should take what ever goetzjam says with a very huge amount of doubt as he lied few times now about what chris said, and is known for trolling around the forums (and getting probation for it). No it was not stated anywhere from chris that they will change the lab.
This is what he said:

"a lot of emails for a new method to get the points that bypasses the lab, maybe thats something we will do in the future, we are not closed to the idea, but its not something that is coming out in this expansion"

Yeah clip out the rest of what he said after that because it would make my point true.

He then goes on to explain how he likes that there is decisive content in the game and the idea that you might have to do something that you dont necessarily enjoy to get the benefit for doing it.

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So no lies, if anyone is lying its you by not finishing the fucking quote. As for trolling, that isn't the case if you don't know why I was put on probation don't fucking speculate. Very very few of my post every get editted by GGG, the last couple of times I was put on probation were from PMs, not post. If anyone is trolling its your pathetic attempt to try and circle jerk a point without accepting the reality of the situation which is, THEY HAVE NO PLANS TO REMOVE AC FROM THE LAB.


Posting blatantly incorrect information should be removed as you aren't doing anyone a favor by leaving out the rest of what he said.

Fact is, you openly lied (as you did similar lie few threads back, when I corrected you also about your "interpretation" what chris said), and here you lied again. Dont care what you think chris meant, as nothing that he said after what I posted change the fact of that quote. He specifically said, what he said and that they will think about it in the future of removing the point from the lab. And this was only confirmed with the response to the open letter.

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Poutsos wrote:

Personally i beleive that the bst option would be to leave Lab as it is, including the Acedancy Points reward, but also introduce an alternative way to get them later though leveling. So 2 AC points at lv 80, 2 at 85, 2 at 90 and the final 2 at 95.

You want them early? do the labyrinths. You hate the lab? You will get them but much later.

Agreed...
I too would like an alternate way of getting AC points ( hate traps, find their dmg not... "fair" for a hc enviroment POV).
Not sure about the exact numbers(I mean the ones you suggested in your post, lvlwise), but I would welcome another way of getting them points instead of doing traps...

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miljan wrote:

Fact is, you openly lied (as you did similar lie few threads back, when I corrected you also about your "interpretation" what chris said), and here you lied again. Dont care what you think chris meant, as nothing that he said after what I posted change the fact of that quote. He specifically said, what he said and that they will think about it in the future of removing the point from the lab. And this was only confirmed with the response to the open letter.

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You are wrong and you continue to post as if the interpretation you believe is correct makes mine a lie. It does not. He never, ever indicated that they are going to change AC point going forward, so if you follow that line of thinking they don't have plans to do so either. If they had plans he would have said it, if nothing else then to appease players like yourself that want it changed.

But guess what, he didn't say that they are looking to change it in the future. That is simply something he never said.


Don't fucking cut off the quote next time and people will be able to interpret it as they wish. Instead you are showing your extreme bias by cutting off the quote as to make people think that was all that was relevant spoken on the topic.


I don't understand why post like yours, which is a direct violation of the TOS are allowed to remain. Personally I don't appreciate people being allowed to violate the TOS repeatedly and strait up make up bullshit in the process.


Ultimately I win because the lab isn't getting changed in this next patch (at least not the acquisition method of AC points) so you all can continue to cry, while I enjoy the game.

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Turtledove wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

THEY HAVE NO PLANS TO REMOVE AC FROM THE LAB.

You wanted proof that you lie. Above you made a false statement. The first time you made this statement, I said that you mistakenly made the statement. I said "mistakenly" because I was not sure whether it was a mistake or a lie. Here lie is defined to mean someone making a statement that they know to be untrue. Since you never apologized for making the false statement and instead personally attacked me for pointing out your untrue statement, I have to assume that you knew it was untrue but you said it anyway. Therefore, you have once again made the same statement and since I know that you should now know it to be untrue that makes it a lie. Further, I now assume that you knew it to be untrue the first time you said it and so you have repeated this same lie at least twice now.

Please stop telling lies. It is disruptive and just hurts your position because then other people may then ignore your posts like I try to do.

EDIT: You asked for this information. Terms of use: 9(a) All Posts must represent your genuine opinion of the matter in question;https://www.pathofexile.com/legal/terms-of-use-and-privacy-policy

That statement was made so that I could compare a similar statement to ones that were made here. I did not violate the TOS and GGG agrees or they would have removed it.

Further more your continued harassment IS in fact a direct violation of the TOS and will not be tolerated further.

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(b) Personal abuse, foul language, inappropriate subject matter, obscene, harassing, threatening, hateful, or discriminatory or defamatory remarks of any nature, as may be determined by Grinding Gear Games in its sole discretion, or Posts otherwise in contravention of any law or court order, are not permitted;

GGG needs to review this post carefully as you are directly violating multiple instances of this.


Just FYI I made the statement about masters so I could give my opinion on the matter, it was a necessary statement to make so that I could compare the two. Nothing violating the TOS there.

I just hate the lab .

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Casual_Ascent wrote:

Still not on the HC lab ladder board list, I see.

My suggestion to you guys who love it so dearly, is to get using it before it goes the way of the PVP ladder board.

Of course not, I don't like the lab for the racing aspect I like it for the unqiue gameplay aspect.

As for the leaderboard thing, it isn't going anywhere, unlike the PVP ladders this takes no additional work once setup from GGG, they don't have to make any new art or anything like that for them to run it.

Of course you would know this if you have been around for a while, but you haven't.

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goetzjam wrote:

Ultimately I win because the lab isn't getting changed in this next patch (at least not the acquisition method of AC points) so you all can continue to cry, while I enjoy the game.

This comment (among many others), and the priorities it reveals, reminds me of hardline left-wingers and right-wingers in American politics. They'd rather "win," too, at any cost. (E.g., get their party representative in office, even if the candidate is a complete scumbag.) It's OK for America to lose, so long as they "win."

"Ultimately I win...?" No. If the game loses substantial funding, either via players leaving or via players deciding not to donate because they are displeased with the game's direction, it will most certainly be a significant loss for GGG and, indirectly, for you.

So your "I win" statement is only true if you are against GGG's (and PoE's) long-term success.

Stop trying to create more adversaries so you can "win" against them and start getting back to your more interesting (and actually relevant) feedback, about making the labyrinth better so that it can remain enjoyable to those who like it while not continuing to divide the community (an unfortunate reality which many of your posts exacerbate) and not continuing to drive players away.

You do have valuable things to say, goetzjam, but I see them often getting lost in a lot of irrelevant trashtalk. If you cut out the latter, you'd actually wield a great deal more influence over this debate and others.

Sorry I could not stop myself.