First Wave of Trade Improvements

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TRV wrote:

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Talismannn wrote:

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Joleco wrote:

At the end they will throw one miserable premium stash tab to everyone (probably convert 1/4 of the regular tabs) and ppl will start speaking how great, how good GGG are haha. But truth is... bad bad P2W step. Only 1 thing can be done to destroy P2W here... to remove current regular stash tabs, to convert them into Premium. Thats only way where all players will be like anyone else, without advantages of money.

Sure. go ahead. And then refund me all the extra that I paid for the premium tabs that others are now getting for free.

If you don't pay for something how can you expect to get the same as those that have paid for it?

This works both ways in case people haven't noticed. Why should people who didn't pay for premium tabs get free upgrades / free stash tabs?

The premium tabs help support the game. No game support and that would mean no wages for the staff and no game to play at all.

People are calling this p2w. I see no extra buffs on my bar, no shiny uniques that you can only buy from GGG and don't drop in the game. I also see no difference in gameplay, no area in the game you can't access for free.

I do see a game that gives you 23 free character slots, free updates, free expansions. Alongside that you get free customer support that is second to none in any game I've played before.

yes there are some of us who can afford to buy extra's. The extra tabs I buy in no way, shape or form impact anyone elses gameplay. It in no way restricts how you play the game or how you trade.

People need to learn what the actual term pay to win means and stop throwing it around in this game like it has any relation at all to the mtx transaction. If you want a pay to play game, then go try find any other game where there are no true p2w aspects that give those that buy them true advantages in the game.


GGG has a fantastic game model, its also the only game I have ever played where the playerbase gladly support the game and at one point even shouted at them for not having enough to spend their money on.

This is a 100% level playing field for everyone and extra stash tabs make no difference at all to the gameplay.

Such a long post and all of it screams I SPENT MONEY NO ONE ELSE SHOULD GET ANY FEATURES FOR FREE.

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TRV wrote:

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Talismannn wrote:

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Joleco wrote:

At the end they will throw one miserable premium stash tab to everyone (probably convert 1/4 of the regular tabs) and ppl will start speaking how great, how good GGG are haha. But truth is... bad bad P2W step. Only 1 thing can be done to destroy P2W here... to remove current regular stash tabs, to convert them into Premium. Thats only way where all players will be like anyone else, without advantages of money.

Sure. go ahead. And then refund me all the extra that I paid for the premium tabs that others are now getting for free.

If you don't pay for something how can you expect to get the same as those that have paid for it?

This works both ways in case people haven't noticed. Why should people who didn't pay for premium tabs get free upgrades / free stash tabs?

The premium tabs help support the game. No game support and that would mean no wages for the staff and no game to play at all.

People are calling this p2w. I see no extra buffs on my bar, no shiny uniques that you can only buy from GGG and don't drop in the game. I also see no difference in gameplay, no area in the game you can't access for free.

I do see a game that gives you 23 free character slots, free updates, free expansions. Alongside that you get free customer support that is second to none in any game I've played before.

yes there are some of us who can afford to buy extra's. The extra tabs I buy in no way, shape or form impact anyone elses gameplay. It in no way restricts how you play the game or how you trade.

People need to learn what the actual term pay to win means and stop throwing it around in this game like it has any relation at all to the mtx transaction. If you want a pay to play game, then go try find any other game where there are no true p2w aspects that give those that buy them true advantages in the game.


GGG has a fantastic game model, its also the only game I have ever played where the playerbase gladly support the game and at one point even shouted at them for not having enough to spend their money on.

This is a 100% level playing field for everyone and extra stash tabs make no difference at all to the gameplay.

Such a long post and all of it screams I SPENT MONEY NO ONE ELSE SHOULD GET ANY FEATURES FOR FREE.

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TRV wrote:

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BabyTrutle wrote:

Ok so, I read a lot of people calling POE pay-to-win, but is it really? They've added this but they've not said they've removed the $Trade chat allowing people who do not have premium stash tabs to still sell their items. If you can't afford premium stash tabs 1 or 6 including when they are on sale, then no offence, They don't cost much & are worth the money if you're willing to play POE for a lengthy time period. If you're not going to then there's no point in making comments about POE becoming a pay-to-win game.

I also think that they chose premium stash tabs over normal ones, so players could colour-code & rename their tabs. This in itself will make it a lot easier for people who will use third-party sites to pick & select what tabs are being used & use the software more efficiently, than figure out how to use it for a good hour or so.

Again, Just my opinion. If you're not going to spend hours on end on POE, then nothing will be worth anything for you.

- Iniquitous_

Serious question, have you ever managed to sell anything spamming trade chat? That is NOT an acceptable trade method.

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BabyTrutle wrote:

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TRV wrote:

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BabyTrutle wrote:

Ok so, I read a lot of people calling POE pay-to-win, but is it really? They've added this but they've not said they've removed the $Trade chat allowing people who do not have premium stash tabs to still sell their items. If you can't afford premium stash tabs 1 or 6 including when they are on sale, then no offence, They don't cost much & are worth the money if you're willing to play POE for a lengthy time period. If you're not going to then there's no point in making comments about POE becoming a pay-to-win game.

I also think that they chose premium stash tabs over normal ones, so players could colour-code & rename their tabs. This in itself will make it a lot easier for people who will use third-party sites to pick & select what tabs are being used & use the software more efficiently, than figure out how to use it for a good hour or so.

Again, Just my opinion. If you're not going to spend hours on end on POE, then nothing will be worth anything for you.

- Iniquitous_

Serious question, have you ever managed to sell anything spamming trade chat? That is NOT an acceptable trade method.

I have tried & yes you're right it doesn't work time to time but it does occasionally. The thing is people haven't understood that they haven't removed anything but introduced only one concept to improve the trading system, so how can people call it pay-to-win, there's more to it.

- Iniquitous_

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nech0 wrote:

why should i pay money for that when is a third party program for free ?

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nech0 wrote:

why should i pay money for that when is a third party program for free ?

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ShadowJester717 wrote:

Love this i cant stand seeing people say, "this is pay to win" when you can still just use the free third party stuff! its pay for convenience which i like and will be supporting :)