First Wave of Trade Improvements

Holy moly... I havent read all 93 pages of this but I am new to PoE, and enjoyed it enough to give them a few dollars.

if you like the game enough to post on the forums, pony up 5 bucks and get a premium stash tab.

edit: I guess 6 tabs are 200 points, I cant math.

I'm not sure how people who have never paid a dime for this game are running around with 4 stash tabs expecting to progress through the game as fast as someone with 100 stash tabs after playing the game for thousands of hours. Premium or not. Is the guy with 100 stash tabs paying to win? No one ever complains about that. Sure, you can have plenty of fun with 4 stash tabs and be quite successful. You may be entirely self found. You may have to vendor some stuff to make room once in a while. A guy with 4 stash tabs is going to have to spend a little more time trading up just so he can make room for his currency.
I'm sure there are plenty of people who have been playing for years like that and have no complaints. Can they still trade after this addition? Sure! Will it be a little tougher than for someone with premium stash tabs? Maybe. Can you still trade like before? Absolutely!

The trading change is a QOL update, and more updates are on the way.

It's just like buying regular stash tabs is a QOL update. A feature that's been around since beta, and GGGs highest revenue producer. A feature that is likely allowing you to still play this game you have put hundreds or thousands of hours into. You very, very rarely hear anyone complain about that.

Give GGG some credit. They have been the most open, honest, and trustworthy game developer you will ever see.

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NecrologyX wrote:

Holy moly... I havent read all 93 pages of this but I am new to PoE, and enjoyed it enough to give them a few dollars.

if you like the game enough to post on the forums, pony up 5 bucks and get 6 premium stash tabs.

Yeah because not having premium tabs means you havent supported at all right? What about the people with a hundred plus normal tabs? Is that not enough support? How about the cosmetics people buy? Are those not supporting enough?

"pay to win" i lmao when i see this here
p2w what dude? few chaos orbs?
stop being ridiculous plz, set a shop and sell your stuff its common and trivial in any rpg game.

God, this 12 years kids.

It seems to me that it may just be easier to add in this functionality to the premium tab system. If this is the case, and they are just releasing it now as a test/step towards eventually integrating it into the entire stash system, then that will be perfectly OK.

But, if that is the case, you need to inform us of it. as it currently stands,this has a very real possibility of turning this game into pay to trade, which is not acceptable. If third party developers drop support for their indexing software, this game will become practically impossible to fully play at a free level. this goes against the stated development values of GGG, and against the expectation of players looking for a free experience.

This cannot stay the way it is. We need either clarity in the design process, a guarantee that the third party trading systems will still work, or free access to the feature. Currently, you have stated that third party systems will still work but this has been denied by the developers of said systems. So we have none of the things we need to accept this feature. Remedy this

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VideoGeemer wrote:

They need to, at the very least, let us convert a tab to Premium for free

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Hey - that is not really the case. I have over 50 premium tabs, and I think they need to convert at least 1 for each account for free - and I recommend all 4. Also I would go even further to recommend an upgrade sale for all those who have purchased tons of normal tabs

You are seriously gating that kind of fundamental shit behind a pay wall? Are you for fucking real?!?

You have been slacking on that front for AGES and then you only give part of the solution to people that cough up some cash? And everyone else gets a "you still have the third party tools lol" in their face?

What happened to "no pay2win"? You are sending everyone that doesn't buy premium tabs away to get some third party programs if they want this. Is this really how you want to operate? How you want to present it to the players?

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Joleco wrote:

At the end they will throw one miserable premium stash tab to everyone (probably convert 1/4 of the regular tabs) and ppl will start speaking how great, how good GGG are haha. But truth is... bad bad P2W step. Only 1 thing can be done to destroy P2W here... to remove current regular stash tabs, to convert them into Premium. Thats only way where all players will be like anyone else, without advantages of money.

Bad Bad idea - unless people with current premium tabs get some of their points back

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Cocofang wrote:

You are seriously gating that kind of fundamental shit behind a pay wall? Are you for fucking real?!?

You have been slacking on that front for AGES and then you only give part of the solution to people that cough up some cash? And everyone else gets a "you still have the third party tools lol" in their face?

What happened to "no pay2win"? You are sending everyone that doesn't buy premium tabs away to get some third party programs if they want this. Is this really how you want to operate? How you want to present it to the players?

It is the first of many other improvements they said. [Removed by Support]

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lucas_zabeu wrote:

"pay to win" i lmao when i see this here
p2w what dude? few chaos orbs?
stop being ridiculous plz, set a shop and sell your stuff its common and trivial in any rpg game.

God, this 12 years kids.

This would be true if this change did not change the way trade will work. Soon all trading will work on this system because it is more efficient, and that is great. We would need to see a response from GGG because currently excluding players from it that does not have premium tabs is not optimal.