First Wave of Trade Improvements

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glockenrock wrote:

FANTASTIC!

I don't get the bitchin... it's not "Pay 2 Win". You people have been doing just fine without this functionality for now. If you want PoE to grow and continue to add ENTIRELY OPTIONAL features like this, they have to be able to pay their programmers. :p

+1 to this!

Exactly! 4 tabs are totally not enough if u want to play this game serious with different chars. In conclusion, you gonna buy tabs at all to get some better game experience and to build your chars like u want them. This bitchin about pay2win is unbelievable while it costs you f**g 75 cents to upgrade one of your normal tabs to premium which you have already bought cause you don't need like 100 tabs for sellin, especially while you can keep on trading like it is. This is OPTIONAL and the change is totally cool! I almost never trade as a solo player because I don't want to use 3rd party tools and I want to play the game instead of spending hours in my f**g HO trying to sell something. Now, I can finally trade.

This is a very nice feature, pay2win would be like there is no other way to keep on making progress or if you would be unable do some actions (here = trading) without having payed for it. You don't need this, if you are not willing to spend stupid 75 cents for one of the greatest games ever where it's content is fully available for you for free.

Most of the bitching guys most likely spent a shitton of money for stupid apps for their smartphones but are whinning about a few cents/pennies for a software like PoE....

Aah...even if it would have been for free then all the [Removed by Support]would still complain...always the same.

Great work GG!!!! Now I need to jump back on the hype train :_)

Let's be real, I'm pretty sure the huge majority of people who SELL shit on poe.trade have premium tabs just for the convenience of it. Hell, if you've played more than 100 hours on this game, you should give GGG something anyway, and if you haven't, you don't need to trade anyway 'cos you're a casual.

So w/e.

Nice changes. Will make it easier to set up shop.

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Njael wrote:

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tattoogun wrote:

The main "argument" (i dont think so it is) was about the game become p2w. So p2w means you have to pay to get high-endgame gear and you have to pay to get your items min-maxed. you can make the trade still FOR FREE so you dont have the force on you to go and buy premium tabs to make effective trading couse you can do it (once again) FOR FREE! So the pointing on "POE become p2w" its failed.

Yeah well this discussion is officially [Removed by Support]since you don't try to understand - or even read - what I say(you don't even think I used arguments, so I'm not surprised). Also you are going in circles.

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tattoogun wrote:

So why is a big deal to buy couple of them and make your trade "Comfortable"? You got already 1 big Expansion for FREE and the 2nd big one is coming in couple of days also for FREE and top of that you playing the whole game for FREE....why a pain in the ass for you guys spend 20 bucks for 6 "Comfortable" Premium stashtab since you got a tons of things for free?

Now you are the [Removed by Support]. This argument is just silly. Plus you obviously don't get what f2p is.

P.S : I let you have the final say if you feel the need to reply to my non-argumentative post

LOL that made me seriously laugh....You telling me i dont read or understand what you say, but i think you the one who dont read what i wrote...You got a tons of content for free for a game what is free, and there is a choice to make your trade "comfortable" than the actual method for a little investment and couse of this started the shitstorm about "This game is p2w now".

PS.: I dont care "the final word thing" (lol?) but as you pointed on this you thinks like that....its just omfg....final word, really? :D

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Darkkrows wrote:

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Psaakyrn wrote:

Maybe for future consideration? (I mean, eventually you'll find something else to spend those steam monies on..)

When I look at my steam backlog... .... looks like it is not going to happen for very very long time.. hehe. Honestly I think the biggest mistake they did is to sign the deal with Garena & then follow by region lock on steam pretty much put the final nail.

I have no idea whats got in their head to do all that, and then now this trade improvement is gated behind all that. lol

I hear you - I think something needs to happen with helping out that region for this particular case. If there were a way for me to trade real currency for your steam currency to help you out I would. Fortunately I think for others in that region that does not have a lot of currency in their steam wallet - they can still use garena and the website for their purchases.

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Ladylunar wrote:

Imagine my surprise when they said all need Premium Stash stabs.

either tell them to play the game like they played it for over 4 years now or give them a present for birthday for 1,5$ each so they can both upgrade a tab to premium.

or tell them to play world of warcraft.

Really thought you guys were better than this. Making the new trade features cash only puts up way more problems than you solve.

First, you don't unify the trade system so the forum bots will keep on plugging, and they don't need to if you did this right.

Second, you alienate so many people who were waiting for a better system. The "HURRHURR PROCUREMENT STILL EXISTS!" rally call isn't realistic. It's a bad system, there's more F2P people who were waiting for trade improvements to trade than actually use the forum bots to list items.

Third it fucks actual paying customers in the ass who bought your normal tabs, like me. I don't care about coloring and naming, the normal tabs look neater to me and I can remember what number is associated with what stuff. I never liked premium tabs to begin with, wasn't even a cost saving measure.

Gating trade tabs behind paywalls makes you look like assholes, doesn't do anything to improve trade, and doesn't solve any issues on your end. Please tell us how this is good. You can't, it's not going to make you any money, it's just a salt farm. Make public tab an an option for all tabs. Bad, bad GGG. If this goes live like this and my normal paid tabs are bricked, you've lost all consumer confidence from me and many others.

Why so much rage? If you want to trade just a little faster and support GGG, then buy premium stash tabs. Otherwise stick with Acquisition, no big deal.

If you play a game for several hundreds of hours, for free, maybe it is worth it to buy a pack of premium tabs?


Just sayin`

Please add at least one public tab (premium tab) to every account by default. Thanks.

There are a lot of people, who already use premium stash tab and defend the idea of support only PST for trading so we have one more way to solve a problem - to introduce a new type of stash tabs - trading tabs. Everyone can upgrade existing standart stash tab or premium stash tab for trading one(for example for 10 points), that have a functionality of aprice items and automatically post it in thread.
So this idea is better in a follow arguments:
1) Its remove a difference between people, who bought a lot of standart only tabs, and people, who have mostly premium stash tabs;
2) Its easy to understand for what you pay, you choose between safe ingame option for some money or using 3rd party software for free
3) Its a way to get more money for this feature, cause people, who already bought premium, most likely will upgrade them and also a lot of people will upgrade their standart tabs to use a trading feature