First Wave of Trade Improvements

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SuicideSpree3 wrote:
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GGG lied. This is PTW.

I am not on only basic tabs, but the point is the game is significantly more efficient and easier because I have paid and that is a violation of GGG's promise.

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Oh hush you stash tab buying P2Wer. The game is significantly more efficient and easier with stash tabs to begin with, at least not much moreso than efficient premium shop tabs.

/sarcasm

Serioualy though, I'm just snickering at the irony. Did we have as many people screaming P2W with stash tab purchases?
Last edited by Rachel#0000 on Mar 2, 2016, 7:23:48 AM
Ok, this is bull shit now.

I dont want to say, it is p2w, ppl still can use the 3rd party stuff. Why not add such menu to all tabs?

I have many normal stash tabs, never needed premium. And now, if i would want to upgrade, i would need to pay 5 points more for each tab, this is bs. I though, that this sux already, actually wanted to buy ascendancy supporter pack and upgrade all tabs, but when i saw, that i need to overpay 5 points per tab, didnt wanted anymore.

I'm really disappointed now.

P.S. deleted a lot of swearing before posting, so dont get on probation. Still helped to vent a bit.
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farlopa wrote:


Im just saying they re adding a feature that allready exists for free and they re charging money for it.

If you wanna trade and not use third party tools you have to pay. Trading is a very important part of the game and WILL give you an advantage over others.
GGG's trading system will offer you faster update rates over 3rd party tools, so in the end you will have an advantage over others.

Also instead of wasting resources and time in this they could use it better(instead of adding stuff that allready exists and mometizing off of it improving existing features of the game, for example).

Plus i like how they announce this right after stash tab bundles were on sale and not before.

Im kinda sick of these arguements, so im just gonna stop replying. I made my point allreday.


That feature exists only because a third party provides it, there is no problem with letting GGG have their actual own feature.


"If you wanna trade and not use third party tools you have to pay."

And what is the freaking problem here? If you wanted to trade efficiently before you HAD to use 3rd party stuff, now you can either do that, or you can pay. You folks are crying all over the place because now it is, for the first time ever in POE, POSSIBLE to pay for trading convinience. Do you not realize how pathetic that is?

And in case you missed it, they are about to release some major content in a couple days, yet you are complaining they do some quality of life improvements?!? so what more do you want them to do all at once?

Plus stash tabs go on sale so regularly that even mentioning the timing of this announcement as if it was god knows how evil, is downright ridiculous. In a week or two there's the next stash tab sale, so what's the big deal here???

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Last edited by Rachel#0000 on Mar 2, 2016, 7:25:48 AM
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1337fun wrote:
Ok, this is bull shit now.

I dont want to say, it is p2w, ppl still can use the 3rd party stuff. Why not add such menu to all tabs?

I have many normal stash tabs, never needed premium. And now, if i would want to upgrade, i would need to pay 5 points more for each tab, this is bs. I though, that this sux already, actually wanted to buy ascendancy supporter pack and upgrade all tabs, but when i saw, that i need to overpay 5 points per tab, didnt wanted anymore.

I'm really disappointed now.

P.S. deleted a lot of swearing before posting, so dont get on probation. Still helped to vent a bit.


I'd say a fair balance is to convert at least one existing tab to premium. That way we can still participate in the trading improvements, and people who likes efficiency/hoarding can still do so by buying more tabs as they've always been doing.
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Any premium stash tab can now be set to public


Beginning of p2w era in PoE :(
pay to win incoming :/
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Sure_K4y wrote:
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farlopa wrote:


Im just saying they re adding a feature that allready exists for free and they re charging money for it.

If you wanna trade and not use third party tools you have to pay. Trading is a very important part of the game and WILL give you an advantage over others.
GGG's trading system will offer you faster update rates over 3rd party tools, so in the end you will have an advantage over others.

Also instead of wasting resources and time in this they could use it better(instead of adding stuff that allready exists and mometizing off of it improving existing features of the game, for example).

Plus i like how they announce this right after stash tab bundles were on sale and not before.

Im kinda sick of these arguements, so im just gonna stop replying. I made my point allreday.


That feature exists only because a third party provides it, there is no problem with letting GGG have their actual own feature.


"If you wanna trade and not use third party tools you have to pay."

And what is the freaking problem here? If you wanted to trade efficiently before you HAD to use 3rd party stuff, now you can either do that, or you can pay. You folks are crying all over the place because now it is, for the first time ever in POE, POSSIBLE to pay for trading convinience. Do you not realize how pathetic that is?

And in case you missed it, they are about to release some major content in a couple days, yet you are complaining they do some quality of life improvements?!? so what more do you want them to do all at once?

Plus stash tabs go on sale so regularly that even mentioning the timing of this announcement as if it was god knows how evil, is downright ridiculous. In a week or two there's the next stash tab sale, so what's the big deal here???

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There is one problem, and they mention it in their third paragraph:

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The first is that it wasn't that user-friendly. Downloading a third-party application that you need to give your login credentials to rightly sets off alarm bells for many people. A lot more users just didn't find out about these tools or were not willing to put in the effort to use them.


So long as we need to provide login details to a third party app, it'll remain an issue. Not that I don't trust the third party app to use the data right, but that I don't trust it to have the security measures to prevent it from being attacked, being a completely free endeavor.
Last edited by Rachel#0000 on Mar 2, 2016, 7:26:58 AM
I might actually sell shit rather than just vendor.
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tattoogun wrote:

Thoos advantages already out there (Procurement) If you dont use it its not my or neither the developer's problem....


Wrong, it's their problem, as they stated it in their post : "A lot more users just didn't find out about these tools or were not willing to put in the effort to use them."

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tattoogun wrote:
Now they offering you a choice but >>>YOU CAN STILL<<< use third party program for trade (what myself and i think the 90% of the community using)....So i think you have to re-think this.

The game is still FREE TO PLAY and this is a FACT.


Well as I said before the game is free, however you also have advantages - pls don't tell me Procurement does the same thing, you can't sell items without downloading a third party program, alt tab and linking your stuff in a thread, do you ? - if you PAY for premium stash tab. This is also a fact.
Its not pay to win... I used procurement and its fine as it is.

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