First Wave of Trade Improvements

Oh wow the hell with the pay to win aspect of this thread.

What's important? How it will devalue items due to the ease of trading (rampant undercutting etc.)

As long as the don't go further than this, i.e. full market/auction house with listings and 0 human interaction, we'll be in good shape.
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TwelveYears wrote:
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SuicideSpree3 wrote:


Stop saying things like 'Shut up'. It's needlessly rude.

I don't have a problem with paying. I will, because it makes sense for me to do so and I can afford it.

That doesn't change that GGG are now liars and going back on their FTP and no PTW promises and that leaves an awful taste. I play plenty of games made by dishonest developers whom I dislike because the games are great anyway. It's not about whether it's an improvement (which it is). It's the principle that they've violated and the way the benefits of this improvement are super heavily concentrated towards people who pay GGG and why that's completely antithetical to their false promises.


Ahh dont call people liars with an extremely poor argument like that. Did they use the word forever? No. Is it really P2W no. You guys need to analyze better before making such statements. Not surprised on a forum however even if its pretty good here generally.



The game itself is not pay to win, this is an advantages but calling it flat out you need to pay to win is ludacrous and over dramatic. Not only that but these are not even implemented so how do you know?
Care to show some proof on that? If you can prove all the top 5 players won because they had over 100 stash tabs then we can talk, otherwise stop being so bloody dramatic.
Wait until this actually effects the game before blowing you top off. Thats me out, forums are cancer for obvious reasons.
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Path of Exile; A world where you are free from pay to win. Unlimited builds, vast enemy mods and a strong end game. Unrivaled community in real life and rewarding developers.
Path of exile is one of the best ARPGS created/ Died 25 times to 1 boss in Path of Exile and would rip again.
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Kaylos wrote:
Oh wow the hell with the pay to win aspect of this thread.

What's important? How it will devalue items due to the ease of trading (rampant undercutting etc.)

As long as the don't go further than this, i.e. full market/auction house with listings and 0 human interaction, we'll be in good shape.


Yes exactly this, its the quality of the trade.
Definitions:
Path of Exile; A world where you are free from pay to win. Unlimited builds, vast enemy mods and a strong end game. Unrivaled community in real life and rewarding developers.
Path of exile is one of the best ARPGS created/ Died 25 times to 1 boss in Path of Exile and would rip again.
It's kind of nice and stuff, but the thing i dont realy understand is why this was done only to premium stash tabs? I personaly have 10 ordinary tabs and for me it's enough. And now u basicaly tell me to by premium tabs just because u want money right now? And if u went to extand to create basicaly an action house why not let people trade offline ones and for all. Yea u can find people online more reliably but than again if i want an item from a guy from another part of the world? We can just not be online at the same time ever - what am i suppose to do then? fuck off? or seat tight on my but for a couple of days near the computer refreshing third party website page every 5 minutes just in case he will be online? this improvements are basicaly completly useless for me and for a lot of people that dont spent their lifes here..... personaly i was expecting A LOT MORE when they sad Jonatan is working on trade improvements but o well maybe next time.
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TwelveYears wrote:
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TwelveYears wrote:
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SuicideSpree3 wrote:


Stop saying things like 'Shut up'. It's needlessly rude.

I don't have a problem with paying. I will, because it makes sense for me to do so and I can afford it.

That doesn't change that GGG are now liars and going back on their FTP and no PTW promises and that leaves an awful taste. I play plenty of games made by dishonest developers whom I dislike because the games are great anyway. It's not about whether it's an improvement (which it is). It's the principle that they've violated and the way the benefits of this improvement are super heavily concentrated towards people who pay GGG and why that's completely antithetical to their false promises.


Ahh dont call people liars with an extremely poor argument like that. Did they use the word forever? No. Is it really P2W no. You guys need to analyze better before making such statements. Not surprised on a forum however even if its pretty good here generally.



The game itself is not pay to win, this is an advantages but calling it flat out you need to pay to win is ludacrous and over dramatic. Not only that but these are not even implemented so how do you know?
Care to show some proof on that? If you can prove all the top 5 players won because they had over 100 stash tabs then we can talk, otherwise stop being so bloody dramatic.
Wait until this actually effects the game before blowing you top off. Thats me out, forums are cancer for obvious reasons.


If anyone can make even top 100 on ladder without extra stash tabs or assistance from people who do have them, I will retract this.

Otherwise in no meaningful sense it possible to win without paying GGG money.
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TRIPL3try wrote:
Monumental improvement! Looking forward to using this. I hope it's not super buggy at release.

Will the exchanged currency automatically go to that tab where the listed item was?


I think you still have to do player to player contact.
Can't wait!!!

I will switch from using other tools then as not to be part of the 'scaling' problem
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pinetemplar wrote:
It's kind of nice and stuff, but the thing i dont realy understand is why this was done only to premium stash tabs? I personaly have 10 ordinary tabs and for me it's enough. And now u basicaly tell me to by premium tabs just because u want money right now? And if u went to extand to create basicaly an action house why not let people trade offline ones and for all. Yea u can find people online more reliably but than again if i want an item from a guy from another part of the world? We can just not be online at the same time ever - what am i suppose to do then? fuck off? or seat tight on my but for a couple of days near the computer refreshing third party website page every 5 minutes just in case he will be online? this improvements are basicaly completly useless for me and for a lot of people that dont spent their lifes here..... personaly i was expecting A LOT MORE when they sad Jonatan is working on trade improvements but o well maybe next time.


+1

I used to play a game called Dungeons and Dragons Online. It was f2p. It had content that you had to buy (why i stopped playing).

Yet...it had an ah! The auction house was like ebay! It was a second game within a game. It was fantastic.

There is absolutely no reason why GGG cannot implement an auction house like Dungeons and Dragons Online had in their f2p game.
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P2W or not, it doesn't matter.
It is still giving a big advantage to ppl that will buy premium stash tabs now.
Pls add this changes also to regular stash tabs.
GGG alot of ppls supported u till now, pls don't dissapoint us by starting to be gready
Thank you.
Last edited by MrMighty#7822 on Mar 3, 2016, 12:15:11 PM

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