First Wave of Trade Improvements

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PsOfOs wrote:
Ok i understand that you are more patient and possitive thinking. Cool.
It's a great qol especialy in a new league if you are in a hurry to get currency.
Every good item you find,right click and it's online.
Not having to update procurement and then copy paste to thread shop for every single item.
It gives a definite advantage and it's a great addition to the game.
People were furious because league starts soon and they bought tabs this weekend without knowing about it.
Next day it get announced so they have to buy premium on full price to be competitive in trading at the start which is important.
I hope there will be a universal solution soon for all players including the ones i got in this free game, because that's the philosophy that gave GGG the support they got from me through tabs and mtx and from thousands more players. "You pay only for cosmetic effects"
If their bussines model has changed,i would like to know that.
I will not support a "pay for qol" company. It's my choice.
Peace.


Not having to update procurement and then copy paste to thread shop for every single item.
It gives a definite advantage and it's a great addition to the game.

It isn't an advantage...
This thread feels like...

Politburo offer potato, but potato require premium tab.

Internet come to Latvia, shop dreams die with premium tab.

Man and wife work hard to grow potato: it ripen to regular tab.

Stumble on premium tab in field today. It regular tab, breaks ankle.
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Letting players argue over here and making the world more chaotic than it already is.

Yet still no further official statement/acknowledgment from Chris or GGG.

I know it must be crunch time over there but someone must've noticed this? Well done, to come out with a predictably controversial announcement such as this and no other further clarification on the issue is pretty bad PR, GG (minus one G)

#communicationbreakdown
Last edited by fraggleroc#7596 on Mar 1, 2016, 11:21:29 PM
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DemiDemon wrote:
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Sacr0 wrote:
this is the first time in PoE that there's content available only to people who bought something for real money. Why dont you make it work with all stash tabs, not only premium ones?
I always loved PoE for beeing 100% free. This sounds a bit like: hey, do you want to get more currency via trade? come buy premium stash stabs.

Nothing wrong with that IMO. If people don't want to spend the US$1.50 on a premium stash tab they can trade the old way - many folks have got 'rich' doing that over the last couple of years.

This is paying for convenience - kind of like having more stash tabs is convenient. They cost so why shouldn't this?



We will likely not be able to trade the old way.

Some sources say the sites are going to STOP INDEXING the way they have before. Nobody uses trade chat, so all that will be left is this. According to ExileTools, at least. It's not, therefore, convenience of any kind; it'll be the only way to effectively trade.

People really need to learn how to read a couple pages of the thread before they post in it.


-VG-
Invited to Beta 2012-03-18 / Supporter since 2012-04-08
Last edited by VideoGeemer#0418 on Mar 2, 2016, 1:55:16 AM
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fraggleroc wrote:
Letting players argue over here and making the world more chaotic than it already is.

Yet still no further official statement/acknowledgment from Chris or GGG.

I know it must be crunch time over there but someone must've noticed this? Well done, to come out with a predictably controversial announcement such as this and no other further clarification on the issue is pretty bad PR, GG (minus one G)

#communicationbreakdown


Indeed.


-VG-
Invited to Beta 2012-03-18 / Supporter since 2012-04-08
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fraggleroc wrote:
Letting players argue over here and making the world more chaotic than it already is.

Yet still no further official statement/acknowledgment from Chris or GGG.

I know it must be crunch time over there but someone must've noticed this? Well done, to come out with a predictably controversial announcement such as this and no other further clarification on the issue is pretty bad PR, GG (minus one G)

#communicationbreakdown

Hopefully they're planning on releasing a second article clarifying on all the points of concern that this one has brought up.

However, some sort of input saying that such a thing is going to happen would be the responsible thing to do seeing how the entire comment section seems to consist of "the need for a premium tab will be a negative aspect between those who do not put some money into the game and those who do".

Until such things happen, I can only foresee people brewing up bad PR themselves based on the current lack of clarification. If you're reading this right now, GGG, do consider just letting people know the full picture. For your own sake in this situation.
Really cool update! After goofing around with the tools currently available in the Trade API I can say this feels really great! Should be pretty easy to get a nice indexer up and running now. Also, the ease of setting up a shop in game is going to be awesome. Often times in a league I haven't even set up a shop because of how annoying learning and using third party programs is.

However, I do have 2 complaints about the new system:

1. This really does feel pay to win. I love this game and will continue to support GGG, but when I first started there is no way I would have stuck with the game if it didn't feel entirely free
2. It bothers me how little official documentation is available on any of the API functionality. Lack of documentation will discourage me, and I'm sure some others, from doing anything with it.
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FelicityFlowers wrote:

i disagree. chris has said this game has only "ethical microtransactions" and is "free to play". this feature improves a player's ability to trade and obtain currency. obviously currency is vital to improving your character. i do not see this feature as an "ethical microtransaction".


Exactly. It's not about space; it's about the very ability to acquire what we need compared to others. Now, I have the points (obviously) to get a Premium tab. That's beside the point.

And for all these people, like the guy you replied to, who are saying "Well, this is just Phase 1. Phases 2 and 3 should surely fix the problem!"

This ignores that they are still CREATING a problem that will need fixing, and also that this "first phase" comes three years and change after the official release. Maybe by 2024 they'll have Phase 3 complete...


-VG-
Invited to Beta 2012-03-18 / Supporter since 2012-04-08
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Abekrie wrote:

Hopefully they're planning on releasing a second article clarifying on all the points of concern that this one has brought up.

However, some sort of input saying that such a thing is going to happen would be the responsible thing to do seeing how the entire comment section seems to consist of "the need for a premium tab will be a negative aspect between those who do not put some money into the game and those who do".

Until such things happen, I can only foresee people brewing up bad PR themselves based on the current lack of clarification. If you're reading this right now, GGG, do consider just letting people know the full picture. For your own sake in this situation.


It does seem a little like "HEY EVERYBODY! NEW PATCH! NEW ABILITIES 'N STUFF!
(... oh btw p2w ...)"


O.o


-VG-
Invited to Beta 2012-03-18 / Supporter since 2012-04-08
Last edited by VideoGeemer#0418 on Mar 1, 2016, 11:57:47 PM
anyone know if this new premium tab trade ability will available by Friday with the new leagues starting up?

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