ZiggyD Reveals the Scion Ascendancy Class: The Ascendant

So here are my 2 cents on it:

I get what the purpose of scion is - it's versatile, you can play the game as one build, then change your mind, it allows for hybrid builds, for times when you just need those few extra build enabling nodes or mechanics.

BUT, those hybrid options are currently so underwhelming, that you'd be better off starting with specialized class, and then wasting some points/gear slots/ascendacy points in order to reach those build enabling things and still be better than scion.

All things come at a cost - and the cost for getting functionalities which are worlds apart is just too great.

Basically, all of the nodes except 2 or Ranger's are so dissapointing, that even if one specialization was OP, you wouldn't know with which one to complement it with.

Conflux when kill rare or unique? Under what situation is that good? After I kill the boss as a last enemy in the map? After I kill the rare? by the time rare dies, everything else died.
Not mentioning even that after rare dies, good percentage of time, you're collecting loot from it.

Slayer is just horrendous, set of nodes not even worth looking at - who has overkill damage and if he has, why does he need leech? I mean, mobs died.

Basically, rip scion.
Last edited by Tank_The_Shredder_Evans#0131 on Feb 27, 2016, 3:29:56 PM
lets look at juggernaut for example

as scion we get:

- cannot be chilled (since chill seems to be the main source of slow, i think its a good trade)
- 10% chance to gain endurance charge when you are hit (good enough too)
- cannot be stunned at maximum endurance charges (well, if you use cwdt+ic it doesnt seem you will have maximum endurance charges for a long time, but i think it still can be usefull in some cases)

so theese three are pretty well, but its not enough to be a real juggernaut
and here we come to the last and totally disapointing feature
- 30% increased armor
just look at the Unbreakable node, that doubles body armor's amount of armor
if you have a good chest, few houndreds percent bonus from tree and determination for example, the amount of armour provided by this single node is absolutely ridiculous (about 10.000 or smth like that)
and in front of that 30%-increase is just a joke
Last edited by Bisquit#6854 on Feb 27, 2016, 4:45:33 PM
You people are ALL missing the point here. You act and think like you don't know GGG's philosophy.
Scion seems kind of meh right now for most builds but with the next few patches that are gonna nerf all passives in all classes,she will be just as good.
Major "balance" incoming after launch,enjoy while you can.
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You people are ALL missing the point here. You act and think like you don't know GGG's philosophy.
Scion seems kind of meh right now for most builds but with the next few patches that are gonna nerf all passives in all classes,she will be just as good.


I disagree with this idea.
Right now, I would guess tree to item ratio for power is about 10/90, heavily favoring item power.
This might bring it to about 20/80, helping out people on the lower end of the scale.
looking at what other classes get compared to the scion.. just wow.

The scion got shafted here!!!

The only thing the Ascendant is extremely underwhelming compared to every other class especially for melee physical builds!!!

I am very pissed off since scion has always been my favorite, but now I am forced to re roll a Duelist.
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Last edited by johnnybspes#0907 on Feb 28, 2016, 3:25:09 AM
The sheer amount of flexibility here is incredible. I can't even comprehend the insane things you can do with this class.
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The sheer amount of flexibility here is incredible. I can't even comprehend the insane things you can do with this class.


Yeah, people are too caught up in the class specialization nodes when the biggest strength is taking a massive leap across the passive tree.

Seriously, that's bonkers in terms of enabling builds. Not to mention the minor nodes in the scion ascendancy class are passive skill points. I think quite a lot of people missed that. The amount of doors that opens up is staggering.

Ever been theory crafting but fell 10-15 passive points short of making it happen? Not to mention each time there is a passive tree reset, you can respect into an entirely different class. that's pretty huge for casual players. play a witch this update, a marauder next, assassin after that...
Last edited by Asmosis#7365 on Feb 28, 2016, 5:59:33 AM
1. Take ranger starting tree.
2. Respec everything from scion tree.
3. ???
4. Profit.

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