[ Suggestion ] Path of Exile - Frontier

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XRacKS wrote:

+1

@ GGG go hire him asap or at least try to make 50% of his idea into the game!

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Hilldrake wrote:

Thanks alot for your feedback Serleth! That's exactly why i have to always says "it's just a suggestion" i'm not good with trade neither balance enough to realize everything you've said. About the chroms is just a personal problem i have with the ridiculous amount of currency you have to spend to get some simple setups working, but as i said, that's personal =P. Also, i don't know if you read about my explanation about the dominant orb, it's right above your post xD, and i would like to know the reason why essence orb is equally bad to dominant orb if you don't mind explaining it.

I'll keep this logic in mind for my future ideas, i'll try to present things more balanced and not potentially ruin the game in any aspect, thanks alot for your feedback mate.

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Serleth wrote:

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Hilldrake wrote:

Thanks alot for your feedback Serleth! That's exactly why i have to always says "it's just a suggestion" i'm not good with trade neither balance enough to realize everything you've said. About the chroms is just a personal problem i have with the ridiculous amount of currency you have to spend to get some simple setups working, but as i said, that's personal =P. Also, i don't know if you read about my explanation about the dominant orb, it's right above your post xD, and i would like to know the reason why essence orb is equally bad to dominant orb if you don't mind explaining it.

I'll keep this logic in mind for my future ideas, i'll try to present things more balanced and not potentially ruin the game in any aspect, thanks alot for your feedback mate.

The Dominant Orb is actually fine on its own, although I can see some issues with it.

I.e., let's say you roll Cruel physical and then something garbage like mana-gain-on-kill. It's basically a free single-affix Tyrannical roll at that point, but depending on the rarity of the orb itself, that's okay, now that Eternals are gone from the game, and you've applied limitations to prevent perfect crafts, retaining the purpose of the exalt. That's good.

The issue is where lower-tier affixes get eliminated from the pool of rollable mods with higher ilvl items. Unless it literally eliminated only the lowest-tier roll on an ilvl 83+ base, it has the potential to make crafting too easy. I would personally prefer that mechanic to just not be present in Frontier. The Dominant Orb already allows for deterministic crafting to some degree, but by eliminating tiers from the pool, you're making it easier to roll things like Cruel and get mirror-level items into the market way too early.


The Essence Orb has one fundamental issue, and a secondary (more thematic) concern:

* Skill gems presently are tied to attributes based on the sort of "indicator" of what side of the tree would be best suited to utilizing it, and as well to the type of skill itself. For example, bow gems are aligned with dexterity, thematically because it takes exactly that attribute in order to accurately fire an arrow and hit your target when and where you want. Certain melee gems are aligned with strength because it would take a fair bit of it in order to land a Heavy Strike. Etc. This "thematic" reason is the secondary concern but it ties into the primary issue:
* Balance. While it would be awesome from a player standpoint to be able to forgo the boatloads of intelligence required to utilize a caster gem by having it reroll to dexterity, it has the potential to also unlock all sorts of abusive mechanics that are inherently difficult to balance around.

Small example (and I'm working just off the cuff here, so I realize it's not the best, but): let's say you managed to get Freezing Pulse to roll as a Dexterity gem. Great, now you can run a Ranger or Duelist caster and slap into all the projectile nodes instead of having to worry about spell and cold damage. So let's run it as Duelist and go get a boatload of strength with some uniques, use the Inertia jewel to convert some of our excess dexterity to Strength, grab Iron Will and use Rigwald's Quills to get some free Fork.

Sounds pretty awesome, admittedly, but the sheer amount of doors that would open up would be a technical nightmare to balance in a game that's increasingly getting more difficult to balance with new interesting uniques popping up every content update, and now Ascendency classes on the horizon, it could easily go from power creep to just straight overpowered with one lucky Essence change.

Like I said, not the best example that I provided but you get the direction that I'm heading with it.


Also, I forgot to congratulate you for some truly impressive work putting this together.

This is easily the best, and most comprehensive, suggestion to hit the forums in a long time and I sincerely hope elements of this get incorporated into the game (and that you get appropriately compensated for it, if it does). There's a significant amount here that deserves to be in the future of Path of Exile. Well done.

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whrsmycoffee wrote:

Please credit the artists in your post.

https://vantiel.squarespace.com/gallery/

His work is amazing, he should be recognized.

Regarding your ideas, I think in general they are too close to what's already in the game and might end up competing with existing mechanics.

Glyphs would also be useless in hardcore leagues, 8 random mods on a map? Who would put high level maps into that? There's like a 50% chance that you would brick it with most hardcore builds.

Having some "Caverns of Time"-adventure (from WoW where you revisited the past) can surely be implemented in an interesting way, but it also takes a lot of resources to do it in a meaningful way (story, quests etc), it's not just a tileset and mobs from the acts.

Building runewords with maps is a good idea. I think these runewords should function like in D2 though, make it simple. Put the runes/maps into linked sockets on the right item (in the right order ;) ), and you get a predetermined set of mods and a unique name. Downside is that 1) you can't remove the runes (maybe from uberexpensive master craft?) 2) you can't use gems in that item.
Having the comunity discover the runewords would be so much fun, especially the 6-slot runewords (maybe you'd have to put some hints into the game for those).

Lastly, thanks for taking the time and effort of making this. Even though I do not think all of your ideas are good, I do think this content is very good for discussing new ideas and giving GGG feedback on their game.

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Hilldrake wrote:

Hmm... I understand... Also, i don't know why, but i completely forgot to update the Dominant Orb part lol, it shouldn't remove the lower tiers ones, that's an outdated version, really sorry about it.

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About the Essence Orb to skill gems, the chance is really low, also, it might rip your skill gem since you can't try to change it again, it's "use once" kind of orb. (similar to vaal). This was also intended to help players who have corrupted items and can't change its socket colors without paying a hell load of vaal/chroms. But if you think it's too unbalanced, i can think of something else for Skill Gems if you find it necessary. What do you think ?