Mathil's Voltaxic Crit LA/Blast Rain - Cruise control the entire game. Uber Atziri Viable 2.2 ready

Totally agree with Icaros, regarding the "Moar Defensive build" that was posted before. I'm using almost same build as Mathil using, but i droped Aspect of Eagle and Lynx, because i managed to compensate this 6 pasive points via another 3 passives.

And regarding the build witch was posted by RicoKGB, imho it's not balanced well, you lose frenzy. Daresso's is only good for reflect tbh, since reflect doesn't affect us here it is pointless. High Res/ Eva Hp armor is far more better then Daresso's.

Still leveling thru my build which i posted before imho it's a better variation overall.

Congrats chinamang on this godly ring

So Mathil skill tree is better then RicoKGB?

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Undriuz wrote:

So Mathil skill tree is better then RicoKGB?

If you know how to manual dodge it's. So i suggest try Mathil's tree and get rid of Aspect of Eagle and Lynx

I've made a min/maxed tree for those who want to play with vaal pact and phase acro (I think this is to good to skip) and a coil equipped.

As mathil and some of you guys stated, when playing with lightning coil it's pretty hard to cap your resists, thats why picking nullification node is pretty good.then the sniper node is just 2 points away (+30%dmg for 2 points). As said this build I made up using a lightning coil

@Icaros, @PetuSchokk, gentlemans, I must disagree. Or to be more polite - I cannot agree with everything.

Icaros wrote:

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Good concept, but you're losing a frenzy charge, a jewel and 115% crit chance to get those resists from the tree.

And 8% crit multi and 20 flat light dmg from static electricity to be precise. Also those resists nodes from tree carries evasion and armour. But straight onto this point: I've gained 56% increased physical and chaos damage. If my numbers are correct this change will cost around 5k dps on a 5link and around 7k dps with a 6l (assuming you have a perfect jevel). We're talking in the 50-60 k range. So to give you a better picture: you loose around 10% of your total DPS while gaining solid defence (if someone prooves that to be wrong, than I will reconsider).


Icaros wrote:

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Also worth noting that the lightning leech on Doryani's belt doesn't work with voltaxic

Yes I know that. I just dont have a better belt right now. Doryanis is IMO a cheap option to cover resists, some str, some armour and has decent WED.


Icaros wrote:

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I noticed that you don't have Mirror arrow.

I might look into that. Currently I do not feel a much of a need to use it but if it might be helpfull in more than one situation than why not? Good point.


PetuSchokk wrote:

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And regarding the build witch was posted by RicoKGB, imho it's not balanced well, you lose frenzy.

The way I see this: you're using glass cannon. If you're skilled enough to dodge everything with your mouse - good for you, use it. For me for a total loss of around 10% of DPS it is absolutelly worth it to gain much better defence. For now, I consider this not only "balanced" but overall just better.


PetuSchokk wrote:

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Daresso's is only good for reflect tbh, since reflect doesn't affect us here it is pointless. High Res/ Eva Hp armor is far more better then Daresso's.

Wrong my friend. Daresso's is used to enrich all 3 layers of your defence. Evasion, dodge, reduction. It has less evasion than a 2k eva chest yes. But once again, let me show you some numbers:

With my tree (that has much more %evasion increased than the original tree) I'm able to reach 51% chance to evade with a 1,8k evasion chest, 642 evasion boots, 648 evasion helmet, 123 evasion gloves, while having 40% chance to dodge. So my total chance of being hit by an attack (not being a spell) is:

(1-0,51)*(1-0,4) = 29,4%

Now with Daresso's and rest of the gear being the same and same tree aswell I'm able to reach 44% chance to evade and 46% chance to dodge, that means my total chance of being hit by an attack (not being a spell) is:

(1-0,44)*(1-0,46) = 30,2%

0,6% of difference. Thats nothing. But on TOP of that I have added 11% physical dmg reduction from chest alone and 3 endurance charges that are almost allways up to increase my physical dmg reduction further to a 23% AND to provide longer Immortal Calls. This is imo VERY important for not only reflect but ANY high phys dmg spikes that goes through your RNG defence. Also there's Onslaught bonus of 20% increased attack and movement speed when hit and some minor life leech as you're doing some minor phys dmg aswell.

So no my friend, Daresso's is not only good for reflect, its overall good defensive chest and imo much better option than a rare 2k eva chest if u can squize resists somewhere else.

To wrap this up, the way I see this, regarding original build and my "more balanced" suggestion:

Original tree and gear:
40% chance to evade
and ... nothing else

vs

My tree and gear suggestions:
44% chance to evade
46% chance to dodge
46% chance to dodge spell dmg
23% phys dmg reduction

for around 10% less total DPS.

Or to make it even more obvious:

60% chance of being hit by an attacks
100% chance of being damaged by a spells

vs

30% chance of being hit by an attacks
54% chance of being damaged by a spells
23% phys dmg reduction

So more than double the defence for around 10% less total DPS.


I hope I clarified my point of view and gave you guys something to think about.

But as a final thought: Do what you want, use what you want, what works best for you.

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chinamang wrote:

Got a new ring '_>'!

gg =D


@RicoKGB

i dont think anyone can prove you wrong, because there is really no wrong/right in chosing to trade 10% damage for defense. its personal preferance. if you were dying before, maybe you would clear faster with more defense. if you werent, well then take some more damage instead. its going to depend on a combo of skill, gear, party, map tier, and maybe some other stuff. personally i am using my own version that is more similar tomathil's but also takes phase acro. it still doesn't seem hardcore viable though.

i had planned to use

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIAAF4FLQYjCC4NjQ-rFr8ZihmOIXYj0yP2JIsk_SaVKgsqOC5TMHwx-jY9N9Q51D7PQzFHfkkTSn1M_02STipRR1VLWhpbr13yX7Bh4mKsZU1sjG1sbydvnm_ycFJ07XXLdvd3B3rvexR9dX8rgwmExYbOhxOHdonTieCMNo19jX6PYJMflwaaapu1nKSdqqCfoaSjiqfUr-u1SLe2u-O9Nr3mvqfBM8MzwzrEospK02_TftaK2sHh2-Of5ljnVOpi7T_tg-4O73r8xf66_sj_3o2_1CMwcd2oS3g6QpuNv9VTu5AK

but im not sure anymore what is better

Yeah, With only 4kish hp pool and mostly rng based defence it wont be hc viable. And yes I was dying even though I know the game, its mechanics and stuff, and I'm sure lots of players are dying because of having like 30-40 chance to evade and nothing more. Leveling this past 90 with just evasion and 4k life must be pain in the ass. But I'm sure there are also players who enyoj this kind of a chalenge ;)

hi mathil and player, best set up for 5 link lighting arrow?

chain? or wed?

ty

tornado shot viable for this build?.

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best set up for 5 link lighting arrow?

I vote for LA - GMP - Added L - WED - Void. AoE is still very good without a Chain. But LA - GMP - Added L - WED - Chain works also great. They are both green so... try them out one after another and see what works best for you.

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tornado shot viable for this build?

Yes. Split arrow will also work. You will do slightly more phys dmg, slightly less chaos dmg and slightly less dmg overall with those skills than with LA.

LA converts 50% of your phys into light dmg, providing more "base" dmg for damage scalling and chaos conversion. But dmg difference are so small that use what you like best mechanicaly.

ty for info