[2.6] TankyTwirl - PhysSpell CoC Cyclone

Hey I noticed a mistake in your LowLife build. You still have CI allocated in it :)

Hi, where u put the 2 new ascendancy points ? Thx for the guide

@Dido

Fixed all links with poeplanner links, hope i did not mix up anything this time! Thx for telling me about that mistake!

@thebisa

Its in the Trees allready, i will take the Frenzy charges. Without any on the tree we get 4 Charges = 20% more damage which is good enough and the other 2 options would jsut do nothing for the build.

How much of an issue is reflect?

I am considering playing this in the new hc league as a starter build

I would prob be hybrid for atleast a week

I can certainly avoid reflect maps but what exactly happens if i cyclone into a reflect mob or mobs with like mediocre life and es? As far as I can tell as hybrid you would be relying on the leech and warlords to make sure you lived through it.

basically is this build hc viable at the start of a league or at all? im not familiar with this sort of build so best to ask.

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colwyn wrote:

How much of an issue is reflect?

I am considering playing this in the new hc league as a starter build

I would prob be hybrid for atleast a week

I can certainly avoid reflect maps but what exactly happens if i cyclone into a reflect mob or mobs with like mediocre life and es? As far as I can tell as hybrid you would be relying on the leech and warlords to make sure you lived through it.

basically is this build hc viable at the start of a league or at all? im not familiar with this sort of build so best to ask.

You should be fine early on when your crit multi isn't that high, especially if you run WL mark and a LL gem. Just make sure you get vaal pact and don't do phys reflect maps.

Personally, I would prefer to level and do early maps as a Saboteur trapper then pay a bunch of regrets to respec into CoC trickster once you have some decent gear ready. I think a build like this really shines with high level gems and high ES pool.

@colwyn

I wrote a long posting about reflect just one page back, maybe look into that posting and if there are questions left feel free to ask again.

As Hybrid its the same thing as CI, you leech to your ES and just have your health + healthpot as "Oh Shit" Back up.

I would go CI before going into higher maps because Poison on some mobs can get really dangerous on some types of monsters.

If you are not used to the playstyle things can get dangerous in HC, the things that kill you are about the same as other Meleerange Builds, volatiles, Bearers etc.

If you are used to melee range you should be fine.

I personaly do not play HC but if you search the thread you will find some postings from other players that played it in HC.

It can reach lvl 100 in SC so its does not die often, bu i am very carefull about telling ppl that its ok in HC as i can´t really judge that.

(I only ever played save/cheap builds in HC like Explosive Arrow, Block incinerate, Tornadoshot)

many thanks , i did not check through all the pages , it may be worth just mentioning reflect in the first pots its a common question for obvious reasons

How do you rate this build compared to the classic CoC Discharger (voll's)?

I played a very similar build in PHC but with Pathfinder, it was very solid and with free poison on hit. I'm so torn between doing again a pathfinder, also if it is harder to level, or trying your trickster.

@colwyn
i will try to put something about reflect in the FAQ

@oRieLLi

I also did this build as Pathfinder you can find a Video about that on my youtube.

Overall i liked the Trickster better and it even felt better in Ubers, idk somehow the poison did not feel all that strong even if i skipped the LL Gem on it and Leeched only with Atziri Flasks and had Vulnerability on Hit Maligaros.

I think i should also put this in the FAQ, as it gets asked often. The overall DPS is about the same as a CoC Discharge with Volls Devotion at least according to Matrix Factors Discharge DPS Calculator and my own CoCulator. (That Calculation was for Discharge + Ice Nova, factoring in EE, did not do the Math for Discharge + BV as that is even harder to math)

This build gets higher ES because we can use a good chest instead of volls and also gets alot more Evasion.

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ZweihundertMorder wrote:

@colwyn
@oRieLLi

I also did this build as Pathfinder you can find a Video about that on my youtube.

Overall i liked the Trickster better and it even felt better in Ubers, idk somehow the poison did not feel all that strong even if i skipped the LL Gem on it and Leeched only with Atziri Flasks and had Vulnerability on Hit Maligaros.

I think i should also put this in the FAQ, as it gets asked often. The overall DPS is about the same as a CoC Discharge with Volls Devotion at least according to Matrix Factors Discharge DPS Calculator and my own CoCulator. (That Calculation was for Discharge + Ice Nova, factoring in EE, did not do the Math for Discharge + BV as that is even harder to math)

This build gets higher ES because we can use a good chest instead of volls and also gets alot more Evasion.

You were using Life Leech in that video, is completely useless with Pathfinder version, one of atziri flask or vinktar are always up.

Shadow is so much better for levelling and also doing well with less equip, but sometimes it seems I'm carried by my buffed Diamond flask, I always crit without any investment xD