[2.6] TankyTwirl - PhysSpell CoC Cyclone

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sergio_thor92 wrote:

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djokosrb wrote:

Anyone tried Skin of the Loyal with this build?
I mean we get +1 level of socketed gems(nice dps boost), cheap 6l, and that 100% inc. ES, with nice ES shield and boots and uniques with good ES i think it can easily replace 500ES chest?

Thats teorycrafting only :) Would like to see it, but not losing 20-25c (with right colours) :)

Ey! Im here again. I leveled my character during the last three days until 80 using Skin of the loyal.

With my gear and trickster i reached 10200 ES with loyal and tried a 600 ES chest and reached 10800. That is the difference. My loyal cost me 12c and i have more dmg thanks to +1. At the end you should choose between more dmg with loyal or evasion and just a little more ES with a sadist or carnal, that can cost 300c six link.

This my gear now

Spoiler

Note: Granite flask is much better than Basalt.

My stats in ho without charges and no flasks are:

10500 ES
10300 Bladefall
11800 EK
72% Crit Cyclone
77% Crit EK
67.3% Crit Bladefall
400% Multiplier with Spells
All resis 140+
6% Physical reduction
30% Chance to evade

You can check my tree in my profile, need more lvl, still missing 2 jew nodes, flask nodes and some ES and spell dmg.

Thats the answer i wanted to hear, so easy, cheap and nice in terms of dps, 6l :)
Thx mate.

Another question, in passive tree we are supposed to pick couple of %reduced mana reservation nodes.
But with Vertex and only one %4 reduced mana reservation node i have enough for all auras. Active skills(Cyclone and Whirlwing blades) are free from Ascendancy, and all other skills are auto-cast via Cast When Damage Taken, so we dont need mana for them.

I mean, its clear we do that for effect of aura skills nodes, behind those reduced mana reservation nodes, but we can to that more efectively with other points for aura skills from tree.

Or i`m missing something?

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djokosrb wrote:

Another question, in passive tree we are supposed to pick couple of %reduced mana reservation nodes.
But with Vertex and only one %4 reduced mana reservation node i have enough for all auras. Active skills(Cyclone and Whirlwing blades) are free from Ascendancy, and all other skills are auto-cast via Cast When Damage Taken, so we dont need mana for them.

I mean, its clear we do that for effect of aura skills nodes, behind those reduced mana reservation nodes, but we can to that more efectively with other points for aura skills from tree.

Or i`m missing something?

If you have enlighten 2 in vertex, will be 3 and need one 4% reserved (near to Chaos inoculation). If you have lvl 3 enlighten in vertex, will be 4, and you dont need any reserved node. You can check my tree in my profile.

In the best situation and not cheap... without vertex and lvl 4 enlighten, you can use an hubris circle and any reserved mana node.

You dont need your mana or aura effectivness, only to carry your auras.

@djokosrb

sergio_thor92 answerd most of your Question but incase you asked about the Influence Cluster. I started taking these nodes because the Aura Effect provides really good Energy Shield and also a little damage so in my oppinion its better to take that then just take pure ES nodes. (The 14% Aura Effect is better than 2x 6% Nodes)


@sergio_thor92

I really would not say that a Hubris+ lvl 4 enlighten would be BiS. You would lose levels on Auras and lots of Evasion. You would gain a maximum of 200ES and thats if you buy a Mirror Quality Hubris with 540 ES and lose 1 level on Hatred, HoI and Disciplin + 700 Evasion. (compared to a perfect Vertex with 348ES)

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ZweihundertMorder wrote:

@djokosrb

sergio_thor92 answerd most of your Question but incase you asked about the Influence Cluster. I started taking these nodes because the Aura Effect provides really good Energy Shield and also a little damage so in my oppinion its better to take that then just take pure ES nodes. (The 14% Aura Effect is better than 2x 6% Nodes)


@sergio_thor92

I really would not say that a Hubris+ lvl 4 enlighten would be BiS. You would lose levels on Auras and lots of Evasion. You would gain a maximum of 200ES and thats if you buy a Mirror Quality Hubris with 540 ES and lose 1 level on Hatred, HoI and Disciplin + 700 Evasion. (compared to a perfect Vertex with 348ES)

Thats what i did :)
Picked Influence, with 20% increased effect, i gained nice ES and some DPS. And with one 4% reduced reservation node beofre Influence, everything is fine.

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ZweihundertMorder wrote:

@djokosrb

sergio_thor92 answerd most of your Question but incase you asked about the Influence Cluster. I started taking these nodes because the Aura Effect provides really good Energy Shield and also a little damage so in my oppinion its better to take that then just take pure ES nodes. (The 14% Aura Effect is better than 2x 6% Nodes)


@sergio_thor92

I really would not say that a Hubris+ lvl 4 enlighten would be BiS. You would lose levels on Auras and lots of Evasion. You would gain a maximum of 200ES and thats if you buy a Mirror Quality Hubris with 540 ES and lose 1 level on Hatred, HoI and Disciplin + 700 Evasion. (compared to a perfect Vertex with 348ES)

Yes, leveling with aura nodes is so good. And yes :) The Vertex really is great. My next step is craft a Vagan dagger and then, try to remplace Loyal in Carnal Armour, but Loyal is great too, doing T12 with no problems.

Did CI on lvl 64, and at lvl 67, im siting at 8.2k ES, with 6 power charges Cyclone DPS is 2400, Bladefall 7200 and Knives is around 6300.
Critical strike chance without boots enchant is 85%, with enchant on around 94%, crit multi is 270% for all skills.

Gear:


Tree at lvl 67:
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYCAAVCBx4JIA5ID6sRLxFQEZYV1xa_GyUdTyBuIvQkiyoLKjgrCiycLL8vbzW5PV9BlkcGSVFJsUuuTINMs1AwUlNWY13yX2pfsGNDZJ1qjGwLbRlvnnBScFZwu3DUdIF1_XcHe9d_xoRvhMWGrocTidOMNo_6kBuTJ5Uul5WX9JoTm7WcpKLZo6OnK66zsNi1SMM6yBTKStDQ0PXUQtfP2HbZE9lb217b1OkC62Pr9ewY74jw1fId8uH1b_k3-aQ=?accountName=djokosrb&characterName=Coc_Shady

Next plan is to replace(upgrade) shield with some with minimum 450 ES, get Diamond Rings with similar resist (one is enough probably) and finale get crystal belt with 115-120ES. In the end mastercraft for dagger ofc.

I tweaked my tree for more dps at lvl 67, and will tweak more, cuz i think around 9.5-10k ES(my plan) is more than enough, i mean 8.2 is allready enough :)Probably i`ll cut one jewel spot(2 nodes) and those nodes for flask eff(i found it not that important earlier on similar char), and those 5 nodes i`ll probably spend on Adder`s Touch. With those 5 nodes, total bonus is 90% crit multi(which is insane), 60% crit chance, 22% phys dps and free poison(cosmetic gain) :)

Probably strongest/fastest clearing char i ever played.

So Trickster or Assassin? Or just better off going Cospri Discharge?

@Drey070

I´ll link this posting some pages back because i allready compared to Cospri there:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1526988/page/119#p14062571

I am pretty sure that i also did a pretty detailed rundown of pro and con of Assassin vs. Trickster somewhere in here but i cant find it atm.

Short Version: Trickster is more fun and better for mapping and clearspeed, Assassin is better Singletarget damage but more expensive.

Tweaked the low life version a bit, added more ES and reworked the skill tree without loosing much damage. Not much that can kill me now, build feels veeery strong. I can still get triple prefix es gear for about 1K more es. And leech enchant on boots will also add some more defense.

13K ES
42% Chance 2 evade
79K EK w Charges
60k BF w Charges
103% fire res, 102% cold, 132% lightning res in town

Gear


Skill Tree lvl 96