Donald Trump

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Jojas wrote:

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TheWretch wrote:

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NeroNoah wrote:

Many: it doesn't adress the cause of the problem, it doesn't stop people from entering, and Mexicans won't pay for it at all. Dumb promise is dumb.

Na its obviously what the constituents want to hear.

If Trump promises he'll make dollar bills rain down from the sky instead of water is that going to be your defense too? :D

Im sure he'd like to! lol making it rain dolla dolla bills y'all is a little different than expanding an already existing wall though :(

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NeroNoah wrote:

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TheWretch wrote:

Yes, the cartels ARE Mexican and they control most of that country. Get your head out've the sand.

And yes, they ARE messing with the US by smuggling in everything from cocaine to kids to be sold into slavery by the ton, so please, stop. You're looking extremely ignorant.

That's just mental gymnastics at this point.

Mexico will not allow immigration into their country unless you can show that you have $10k US in assets to bring with you. They JAIL illegal immigrants from south of THEIR border (because they want neither competition for their own colonists in the US, nor to import the poverty of their neighbors), and worse:

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/04/04/mexico-torturing-central-americans-and-others-in-effort-to-stop-illegal-alien-migration/

Meanwhile, Mexico provides education and support to those who aim to enter the US in violation of OUR laws, exporting their own poverty, while importing BILLIONS in remittances from their expatriate population. And they laugh at us all the while.

Sure as HELL Mexico is "screwing with the US." =>[.]<=

@Scrotie: truly interesting perspective, :)

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Raycheetah wrote:

Mexico will not allow immigration into their country unless you can show that you have $10k US in assets to bring with you. They JAIL illegal immigrants from south of THEIR border (because they want neither competition for their own colonists in the US, nor to import the poverty of their neighbors), and worse:

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/04/04/mexico-torturing-central-americans-and-others-in-effort-to-stop-illegal-alien-migration/

I think you willfully ignore that the US pressures Mexico to crack down on illegal immigrants in the same article. And it makes more a case for searching different solutions to a mere border block (see, pointless violence). Mexico cracks on illegals mostly to stop their vouyage to the north. Here is the original Guardian article Breitbart sources.

Also, if you post Breitbart articles, I can post Salon ones.

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Raycheetah wrote:

Meanwhile, Mexico provides education and support to those who aim to enter the US in violation of OUR laws, exporting their own poverty, while importing BILLIONS in remittances from their expatriate population. And they laugh at us all the while.

Sure as HELL Mexico is "screwing with the US." =>[.]<=

This is a neutral sources I found about that (don't expect people believing those theories without proof, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof). If Mexico is exporting their poverty or just helping to improve their citizens situation knowing they have travelled to US, it depends on how you want to see the whole thing. Mexico is not your enemy, that's just paranoia. The situation is fairly grey. Also, see Scrotie's last post.

Then people complain about media spinning it...

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Raycheetah wrote:

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NeroNoah wrote:

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TheWretch wrote:

Yes, the cartels ARE Mexican and they control most of that country. Get your head out've the sand.

And yes, they ARE messing with the US by smuggling in everything from cocaine to kids to be sold into slavery by the ton, so please, stop. You're looking extremely ignorant.

That's just mental gymnastics at this point.

Spoiler

Mexico will not allow immigration into their country unless you can show that you have $10k US in assets to bring with you. They JAIL illegal immigrants from south of THEIR border (because they want neither competition for their own colonists in the US, nor to import the poverty of their neighbors), and worse:

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/04/04/mexico-torturing-central-americans-and-others-in-effort-to-stop-illegal-alien-migration/

Meanwhile, Mexico provides education and support to those who aim to enter the US in violation of OUR laws, exporting their own poverty, while importing BILLIONS in remittances from their expatriate population. And they laugh at us all the while.

Sure as HELL Mexico is "screwing with the US." =>[.]<=

xD

It's a gross misrepresentation to say that Mexicans, and only Mexicans, are engaged in drug smuggling and human trafficking into the US. Criminals with United States citizenship no doubt play a significant role. It's more of an international criminal partnership.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

It's a gross misrepresentation to say that Mexicans, and only Mexicans, are snuggling in drugs and seed slaves. Criminals with United States citizenship no doubt play a significant role. It's more of an international criminal partnership.

I doubt any swedes are the ones importing slaves

E: Swedish immigrants

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

It's a gross misrepresentation to say that Mexicans, and only Mexicans, are engaged in drug smuggling and human trafficking into the US. Criminals with United States citizenship no doubt play a significant role. It's more of an international criminal partnership.

Even if that was not the case it wouldn't make sense to punish a whole country for those crimes.

Well, there's simply not a large Swedish immigrant population that I know of. But if you think there are no European-born criminals engaged in drug or human trafficking in the US... well, that's just delusional, and borderline racist.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

Well, there's simply not a large Swedish immigrant population that I know of. But if you think there are no European-born criminals engaged in drug or human trafficking in the US... well, that's just delusional, and borderline racist.

Ive seen The Wire, The greek types do exist, of course.

By and large the Mexican criminals are the current problem. They are the main importers of all things illegal. Look what the US govt did to the Mafia once they'd decided enough was enough, same shit is going to happen to the Mexican Cartels. Just look at what happened to the Columbian ones in the 80s

Did you see that recent go pro video of the raid on el chapo's compound? Hollllly shit. When the US wants you, they get you.

Once the Mexican cartels get bitched slapped it will be the Peruvian's turn and on n on we go

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/new-king-coke/

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NeroNoah wrote:

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

It's a gross misrepresentation to say that Mexicans, and only Mexicans, are engaged in drug smuggling and human trafficking into the US. Criminals with United States citizenship no doubt play a significant role. It's more of an international criminal partnership.

Even if that was not the case it wouldn't make sense to punish a whole country for those crimes.

When the country's government is owned by violent cartels, what else do you propose? The last 20 years haven't worked

here's another relevant doc to the direction this convo took


Cartel Land Trailer

Pm me for full link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC5bpPfltOI

hey nero go tell that guy living on the border there is no problem