Code of Conduct and Valued Posters

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Tompos wrote:

People like Charan, I_NO, Boem, johnkeys, BMBI1 and the rest of their forumwarrior gang with no lives have an absolute fuckton of posts but haven't said anything really, let alone HELPED anyone on this forum.


Since you haven't been here for a year, i am happy to inform you that they have.

Well except maybe Bmbi, not quite sure about him helping out people :), providing a lel and a laugh for sure though.

Glad to have helped you out sir.

Peace,

-Boem-

edit : typo
Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes
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BerMalBerIst1 wrote:

Really? Even YOU are going to try to claim that I never "helped anyone out"? Or was that just an inside joke?

I hope you were joking because you are even more of a "troll" than I am ;)

Word,

-bmbi1-


Like i said, from all the others i have seen actual threads helping other people, from you i cant remember one.

Lot's of fun stuff etc, sure, but actually assisting somebody? Can't remember that.
That doesn't imply you haven't just that i don't know of it.

Feel free to link me one though :), i don't consider it inconceivable of you to do so, but i like to be accurate when i say something.

Peace,

-Boem-
Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes
This is interesting, but I wonder to what extent it will ultimately help the overall forum experience after the heated discussions over initial VP selections settle.

If VPs are kept to a minimal number so that the distinction means something, there's little incentive for most people to modify their behaviour in hopes of attaining it. If the number of VPs is limited only by the number of friendly/helpful posters then it loses its distinction while essentially publicly shaming those who don't qualify. Is there a middle ground?

Support would also have to maintain an active watch on VPs to make sure they continue to merit the distinction.

I would think that the VPs have already distinguished themselves except to new members who, in time, would come to see it for themselves.

@Tompos: I don't think it's reasonable to remove the "forum warriors," as you call them, from consideration over a quantity-vs-quality debate or number of times put on probation. Have they not, helpfully or otherwise, contributed significantly to the forum community over the years? Whether valuably or otherwise in line with GGG's criteria for the distinction isn't our call.
I will nominate shovelcut. Always helping in support and even OT.
Censored.
Yes, thanks, I just did. :)

Been too busy at work to spend much time on any forums and this is news to me.
Censored.
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Kreskya wrote:
I must say that I'm excited about having Valued Posters. I'm not sure why I'm that excited considering my post count. Maybe it's because I'm a forum-whore overall and I love little things like that and acknowledgement for those who deserve it and put in the time to help out others daily. It really does add up over time.

I'd also like to know what the criteria is for becoming a Valued Poster. With that said, I am going to end this with saying that the Valued Posters hype is really real.


Will all depend on what capacity the VPs work on/with.

Take Blizzards MVPs for an example.They often garner double digit downvotes for simply providing links and/or quotes from blues (devs) ... with legit information for further discussion .... I wouldn't wish that on any helping hand.

Open game forums are choc full of vultures who will feed even when their bellies are full,you'll need a thick skin and a keen sense of selective deafness,if you're still keen I salute you.


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BerMalBerIst1 wrote:
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Boem wrote:


Like i said, from all the others i have seen actual threads helping other people, from you i cant remember one.

Lot's of fun stuff etc, sure, but actually assisting somebody? Can't remember that.
That doesn't imply you haven't just that i don't know of it.

Feel free to link me one though :), i don't consider it inconceivable of you to do so, but i like to be accurate when i say something.

Peace,

-Boem-


Just read through my post history, you'll find quite a few gems in there

It's only about 1150 pages or so I think


Would prefer a "best of" or "greatest hits" for perusal,if a vaialable.
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Temper wrote:

Would prefer a "best of" or "greatest hits" for perusal,if a vaialable.


I would suggest "Hello Exile, Stay Awhile and Lift Vol II or
BMBI vs Threadzilla

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&rct=j&q=%22bambi%20vs%20godzilla%22%20revenge&ved=0CB0QtwIwAWoVChMIiMGxwonayAIVB-ZjCh3g9AaE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fm.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DC1XgGb9q71E&usg=AFQjCNG1i5sR2HUQtMjoAf4SAaD1xGbhUA
PoE Origins - Piety's story http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2081910
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CharanJaydemyr wrote:
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Temper wrote:


Take Blizzards MVPs for an example.They often garner double digit downvotes for simply providing links and/or quotes from blues (devs) ... with legit information for further discussion .... I wouldn't wish that on any helping hand.


Wow, that's really disheartening. I wonder if it's because they're seen as brown-nosers or white knights, and thus perception of their every post is somehow coloured by a preconceived notion. You make a hearty case against the up/downvote system on an official game forum if that is indeed how it goes.


Blizzard has/had a pretty good spectrum of MVP types,the system is aged now though and I think the perception of MVPs (GREEN) and dEVS (BLUE),regardless of actual individual personalities,contribution and interaction has simplified to a "us VS them" as players struggle to find meaningful ways to express their concerns.

The mere prescence of a blue or green name will generate interest in a thread,but the attention is focused on the MVP,rather than the content of the MVPs reply and how it relates to the OPs topic ..... while those who can't or won't muster a meaningful contribution to the discussion (which is many) it's a simple procedure of either upvote or downvote (and possibly report) for no better reasoning than .... I don't like this guy or can't civilly counter his points.

Even without a MVP status,you see this being applied to regular forum posters of either "white knight" or "dark knight" status,sometimes against "indifferent" users by the white/dark knights.The most visual and worrying aspect of their system is that Reported posts are publicly marked for all and sundry to see,which in numerous cases gives a very clear picture of the "anonymous reporter" being either ignorant to the use of these forum features or ... well you can figure other alternatives out.

Whatever though Charan,inevitably it's GGGs call and I'm not privy at this time to what a VPs duties will be, if any bar keeping up the good work of helping.I'm more of an observer type than a participant,so likely see things that others miss.

EDIT: I often wonder how these types of systems would work if they weren't anon.Would these options be abused so hard if the user tag was displayed for all to see ... less so I think.But then POE is free to play and dummy accounts for non-ingame activity certainly aren't an option that's off the table,if looking to abuse the system.
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Temper wrote:
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I've done that in this thread too ^_^
Don't forget to drink your milk 👌
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Tompos wrote:

People like Charan, I_NO, Boem, johnkeys, BMBI1 and the rest of their forumwarrior gang with no lives have an absolute fuckton of posts but haven't said anything really, let alone HELPED anyone on this forum.


Gotta ask though, isn't this basically naming and shaming and in violation of the first two codes of conduct.

I mean, i know for a fact that statement is a bunch of crap.

It's quite ironic that somebody would post that in a thread stipulating the new code of conduct. Sure it's allowed on reddit, but as far as i care it is not on here.

Peace,

-Boem-
Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes

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