One-month Flashback Events: Progress and Feedback

I'm sure you've hear loads of this by now, but beyond really is the only thing taking fun out of this league. It just overshadows things and makes the game much much harder. I just want to feel safe opening my strongboxes again (relatively speaking)

i'm always amazed how hyped some ppl can get about something without any substance.

when i first read the word "statistics" in the post i immedeately searched for a link to another post or graphic but nothing. there was just a few points which tell us nothing. calling such "statistics" is the understatement of the year!

i expected actual numbers, player degradation, how many play this 1 month in sc and hc, etc etc ... there would be so much nice things to show.

regarding maps in general:

really? you ask for feedback while there are several threads out there already discussing this?
well ok, maybe if you read the same feedback in multiple threads it might help.

first off: the map-tier system is shit!
it doesn't add anything but confusion.
So you tell us this is for new players. Guess what, maps start dropping in level 62+ (?) zones. Now that maps wont show the level but the tier there is no way for a new player to actually know if he could play it or not. But as it drops you should be able to run it, no?
Ok, so you could argue you first have to unlock the eternal lab. so this is a 64 area. new players might be 66 by then, still 2 level under a "tier 1" map.
by then they probably have figured out how to use the maps. maybe even that you can roll them.
now imagine your first ever map you would have done was a blue desert map with dmg mods. you'd say "fuck that shit".

that tier system as it is now says LITERALLY nothing about the difficulty of a map much the same as the colours. It depends on what mobs are in this maps, what build you play, what mods it has, the boss that is in the map, layout, etc ...

then there is the map drops:
there is no way to tell for a single person if you actually did anything with drops or not. and you know this. and you know what, that is the real problem with your map system.

You can't know if you are lucky or not, if rolling maps (well) actually pays off unless you do several hundreds of them. Requiring us to use zana and roll boxes for magic mobs is bad design. it leaves no choice. either you do it or get rekt. and then again this doesn't even need to get you anything.
In 1.3 you already needed to invest a shitton of time to get to the highest maps but atleast you were able to.
now? better keep up a shop, be online at least several hours per day to even sell shit.

If you can't play this game at least 4 hours per day every day don't even bother reaching tier 10+ maps. especially in temp leagues.

now for my map progression this league:
started mapping around level 70, dual flame totem. went up to tier 4 pretty fast and then, for a very long time, there was nothing. i barely got tier 5 maps but eventually broke through it. now i'm doing tier 6 maps. i can barely sustain this tier just from alching and just refuse to spend anything more than that on this low tier.

right now i have a full tab of tier1-4 maps (already sold quite some for chisels), 20 tier 5 maps, 2 tier 6 maps. Also i have found 4 tier 7 and 3 tier 8 maps which i haven't played any of them by now so this is what i found in 1 1/2 week of mapping.

FOR ME, considering those extra shrines and boxes, it seems more like you changed map drops in a more negative than positive way.

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Qiox wrote:

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claudim1234 wrote:

I'm a little off-topic, but since i'm a returning player, I would like to know when new season leagues (softcore/hardcore) will come? I saw Tempest and Warband ended, and new ones are coming any time soon?

After the current 1 month leagues end, a new 1 month league will run. After that, the new longer leagues will start.

Source?

On topic: Tier system was the dumbest idea GGG has had in a long time and the Flashback League has way too many days with the Beyond mod.

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BoMbaStiXxX wrote:

On topic: Tier system was the dumbest idea GGG has had in a long time and the Flashback League has way too many days with the Beyond mod.

Got my lvl85, but only mapping when Beyond mode is off. Not fun at all die in Tier 1-5 maps :( So my feedback? 0. Will not play maps, time wasted for me if I do that. Next 1M race hype? maybe.

top 10% !

for me this is really a challange .. it wasnt the best choice to try a new melee skill which i never played and is mana intensive as hell (wildstrike). melee for itself was not the best choice ..

anyway. still 2 challenges (onslaught tier 8 boss and level 85) and i guess i wont reach it because upcoming beyond will making me sick again (as melee). that chaos damage, that spawnrate!!!!!!!! (i often found myself in cages/rooms with 5 beyond mob groups and maybe 2 bosses) + that damage with onslaught ... thats bit too much for non "pro/expert" players ...

and its not only difficult, its massive slowing and after 4 hours annoying too .. fun mode zero ..

beside that, the flashback thing is nice.

While admittedly I was playing quite casually this league, I've never seen a Divine shrine apart from the one someone was kind enough to share on global. Perhaps you might want to look into the spawn rate during the final stretch of the event so people could finish their challenge, as it would suck balls to be screwed out of a full set by RNG.

kinda hard to fully and accurately judge map drops in this 1 month with so much additional content going on but i would have to say the drops quantity is improved but the map progresion into higher tiers doesn't feel much better.

I really like the flashback craziness, except for the over present beyond that takes over every map and zone. Sucks the wind out of the feel for this leagues concept.

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Ruefl2x wrote:

now for my map progression this league:
started mapping around level 70, dual flame totem. went up to tier 4 pretty fast and then, for a very long time, there was nothing. i barely got tier 5 maps but eventually broke through it. now i'm doing tier 6 maps. i can barely sustain this tier just from alching and just refuse to spend anything more than that on this low tier.

right now i have a full tab of tier1-4 maps (already sold quite some for chisels), 20 tier 5 maps, 2 tier 6 maps. Also i have found 4 tier 7 and 3 tier 8 maps which i haven't played any of them by now so this is what i found in 1 1/2 week of mapping.

FOR ME, considering those extra shrines and boxes, it seems more like you changed map drops in a more negative than positive way.

It was pretty much the same for me. I have a feeling that the map tier, that will drop, is bound to your character level. I am now level 89 and have some more tier 7-9 maps and sometimes i get a 10-11 map.
But still, i would say high map progression is to slow/low.

I was just wondering, why you chose to put Beyond active from the very start until like three days ago, nonstop.

That mod is - not fun, at least for me. It breaks the gameplay, punishes me for doing what I like doing most in the game (killing mobs en masse) and overall annoying.

Just my 2c anyway. Loved the event even while having to suffer Beyond all the way :)