MoreRain: Life&ES CoC Discharge [2.2]

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Chuchelo wrote:

I can not choose between occultist and trickster

If trickster will really work like described (cyclone - movement),
then I think there is nothing better out there for this build.

You allready are able to carry 5 people threw the maps with the damage output,
but trickster would give you a lot of attack speed, movement speed and defense.
And on top of that you would be able to get away from elreon rings and the mana
nodes on your jewells. Think about what would be possible with no elreon rings.

Walk the Aether - Ghost Dance - Shade Form

only the most important things IMHO.......

no mana cost for whirling blades and ?? cyclone ??
32% increases attack an cast speed - because we use movement skill all the time
+ 250 to es and + 16% to es (app. 1500+)
+ 10% move speed on full es
+ some dodge and evasion on top

For me personaly the possibility of a NO MANA CYCLONE MOVEMENT SKILL,
without any need of elreon rings or +mana on hit jew sounds to good to be true !

Edit: High lvl cyclone possible - even if it will not do a lot :D:D

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Nágash wrote:

And on top of that you would be able to get away from elreon rings and the mana
nodes on your jewells. Think about what would be possible with no elreon rings.

For me personaly the possibility of a NO MANA CYCLONE MOVEMENT SKILL,
without any need of elreon rings or +mana on hit jew sounds to good to be true !

Rare caster rings really kind of suck.

Elreon diamond: 46 crit chance, 40 life, 15% ES, 20 res, -7 or -8.

Rare diamond: 46 crit chance, 70 life, 15% ES, 40 res, +45 flat ES.

Uniques: Doedre's (saves 6 passives), and that's pretty much it.

IMO Using Elreon rings and MGoH jewels is basically free in terms of opportunity cost (but it may not be the cheapest in terms of exalts/chaos).

Vinktar's worth for mapping?

Vinktar's worth for all :O

Regarding which class to go, (obviously if the build won't be nerfed) i'd say trickster sounds cheaper to start with in the new leagues. About occultist, will forbidden power ( 10% pcoc ) enough to drop the voll's chest? what do you think?

if the scion gets the option to chose from 2 ascendency tree's i´d love to take in the hyrophant node "conviction of power" -> 25% chance to gain an endurance charge when you gain a powercharge to get rid of the need to buy/farm volls devotion every new league... if not it seems to be not worth it since the other points with +mana and es or totem stuff won't help anything with the build : /

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Kiri2k wrote:

Vinktar's worth for all :O

Regarding which class to go, (obviously if the build won't be nerfed) i'd say trickster sounds cheaper to start with in the new leagues. About occultist, will forbidden power ( 10% pcoc ) enough to drop the voll's chest? what do you think?

voll's will be must have anyway. 10% chance ON CRIT, not for each enemy you hit with a crit

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Chuchelo wrote:

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Kiri2k wrote:

Vinktar's worth for all :O

Regarding which class to go, (obviously if the build won't be nerfed) i'd say trickster sounds cheaper to start with in the new leagues. About occultist, will forbidden power ( 10% pcoc ) enough to drop the voll's chest? what do you think?

voll's will be must have anyway. 10% chance ON CRIT, not for each enemy you hit with a crit

AoE is not an issue for builds without Volls as everything is dead within seconds even without it. The only thing that matters is single target in my oppinion and and having PCoC in link with cyclone and Blade Vortex produce more charges then you can spent.

I use BM low life build (with shavrones) with 8 auras - Cyclone-CoC-BV-PCoC-LL-Discharge and things are pretty fine

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwMABx4NfA48DkgRDxEvEVARlhRxFy8YahslHRQdTyBuIvQlvCj6KgsrCi3SNbk9X0lRSbFLrkyzUDBSU1XWV8lYB1nzXGtd8l9qZJ1k52ZUZp5oZWwLbRlwUnBWcg9yqXgve9d85X5Zf8aApIKbhEiFe4V9idOMNox2j0aP-pAbkc6SfZMnlG-VLpeVl_SYb5itmhOaO5uhn9-hL6crrJisqq6ztAy3MLvtvorDbcrT0B_Q0NfP2VvbT9te29TcI9-K37_gw-XP6FrpAuoY6rrrY-v17DjvfO-I7-vw1fId8933MvfX-Ov5N_rS

(I reliased I went to 7 auras + CWdT Enfeeble) - Purity of F/C/L + Discipline + Blasphemy Assasins + Herald of Ice + Vitality (movement)

Trickster is the way to go imho.

Hop

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Hop what is your total ES?

Also what became of a dagger with mod "adds x cold damage to spells" when using blade vortex? is it worth it or not?

blade vortex resets the resistances the way you want it, as I use herald of ice it adds the cold dmg to spells as well as melee attacks anyway.

My total ES atm is 7k but my shield has only 145ES (I use it cause of chaos res and spell crit and dmg) and boots only 100ES. When I swich to 446ES shield the total ES goes to 8200.

I plan on going for Vaal pack when the Trickster goes live - I will be able to drop Vitality and some regen nodes. At that point I will proly scrap BM and will go with mana reserved nodes around Vaal pack and BM gem to reserve life that way.

Hop

Yo maks dawg,

ty for the built and the time and effort you put in this guide :)
I just recently got a volls devotion (sadly MS and not +1 curse :P ) and I'm about to craft a vagan dagger and elreon diamond rings.

For the dagger I'll just stick to your tutorial, though I've noticed both you and PoE17 have AS as suffix, was that a lucky regal or is there a safe way to get that mod? Also i'm still a little bit confused whether to craft cold or fire damage, cold is best for BV and fire best for IN but if I'm still undecided which to use, or if I want to have both options, I just dont craft any damage roll for now?

Regarding the elreon diamond rings, how would you suggest to craft them (do you have a tutorial/guide for them just like for the daggers, or is it similar)? 1-stat-rare and multimod? Is there a way to increase the chances of mods like chaos res and life?
And can they be divined to get a higher -mana cost roll?