MoreRain: Life&ES CoC Discharge [2.2]

Scratch that misread. It's far from optimal but you can make it work. The cycle will go : cold->fire+lightning>lightning>back to cold. But that's in theory because BV is a duration spell that hit twice per second for 5 seconds. That means that once it starts procing, it will often desync from the cycle, especially as the number of blades increases. On thrash it might do somewhat ok but on bosses, they'll quickly get that +25 perma lightning resistance. You have to play with ice nova to make sure the combo stays always in sync, that way you can work around the lightning. But that's a lot less charges for your discharge on single target and lesser flask generation. You have to change the dagger.

On Atziri, I get up to 33+ blades ! That's a lot more blade hitting every second that you'll ever do attacks with your cyclone.
Last edited by Bubonlubrique#4315 on Jan 31, 2016, 11:03:17 PM
Looking for some opinions on which item I should multi-mod.

Option 1 - An Elreon Amulet with 25% crit multi and 16% spell damage which would allow me to use the Doedre Ring and go dual curse. I would lose a bit of crit chance but be able to run enfeeble on blasphemy with a warlords or temp chains in a CWDT set-up.

Option 2 - An Elreon diamond ring with +32 strength and +32 fire res. It would give me extra life and % ES. I think I would leave warlords on blasphemy as I like the extra leech.

Ok, to me Warlord's mark on Blasphemy is an heresy : you get minor advantages from a 20/20 Warlord's compared to an Enfeeble or Assassin's Mark. Put in on a lvl 1 CWDT and it will always be there when you need it. You can reserve something else or another curse on blasphemy.

I'd go with the diamond ring as your amulet is clearly not here to stay. Voll's Devotion is the master piece of any CoC discharge build. It gives you tons of damage, extra resists for those ele weakness maps, and quasi physical immunity with a very long Immortal Call paired with awesome %phys damage reduction. I'd even say skip the mastercraft until you get your Voll's. It's just too good to pass.
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Bubonlubrique wrote:
Ok, to me Warlord's mark on Blasphemy is an heresy : you get minor advantages from a 20/20 Warlord's compared to an Enfeeble or Assassin's Mark. Put in on a lvl 1 CWDT and it will always be there when you need it. You can reserve something else or another curse on blasphemy.

I'd go with the diamond ring as your amulet is clearly not here to stay. Voll's Devotion is the master piece of any CoC discharge build. It gives you tons of damage, extra resists for those ele weakness maps, and quasi physical immunity with a very long Immortal Call paired with awesome %phys damage reduction. I'd even say skip the mastercraft until you get your Voll's. It's just too good to pass.


Agreed with both points. I think Warlord's on Blasphemy is something players picked up from Etup. I think it might make sense in a HC context, but I feel like Assassin's Mark is probably safer anyways because of the 11% additional (21/20 with 20q Blas) global crit chance.

Edit: saw this CI vs Hybrid discussion pop up again, thought I would consolidate my thoughts in OP. Added a section into the HP/chaos res section in OP.
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Last edited by MatrixFactor#3574 on Feb 1, 2016, 5:19:07 PM
Why is there no Section of your current gear? The Gear that you are aiming for and not the gear for lvl 72 uber kill. Also a Gem setup section is missing. Would be cool if you could add one. So I geared up a char and did some maps. Lost some xp because I have no chaos res and had beyond spawns =( Maybe I should try to get somehow chaos res but I don't know where. Also did 3 Uber runs with this build was pretty easy. I am only thinking about 1 atm. Should I use blasphemy Assasins Mark or Discipline? With Disciplin I have 6670 ES and 2532 life and without I have 5395 ES

This is my current gear and gem setup:



Would be nice if anyone can say what I should improve to get more chaos res.

Edit: change Belt to

Got now some chaos res and 2698life 5514ES and lost 3k avg dmg. At 36k on discharge now.

Btw what flasks are you guys using?
Last edited by TrueEdge#0890 on Feb 2, 2016, 4:01:32 PM
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TrueEdge wrote:
Why is there no Section of your current gear? The Gear that you are aiming for and not the gear for lvl 72 uber kill. Also a Gem setup section is missing. Would be cool if you could add one. So I geared up a char and did some maps. Lost some xp because I have no chaos res and had beyond spawns =( Maybe I should try to get somehow chaos res but I don't know where. Also did 3 Uber runs with this build was pretty easy. I am only thinking about 1 atm. Should I use blasphemy Assasins Mark or Discipline? With Disciplin I have 6670 ES and 2532 life and without I have 5395 ES


Why should I bother answering your questions if you can't bother to read the OP that I spent a lot of time writing.
All my builds /view-thread/1430399

T14 'real' clearspeed challenge /1642265
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MatrixFactor wrote:
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TrueEdge wrote:
Why is there no Section of your current gear? The Gear that you are aiming for and not the gear for lvl 72 uber kill. Also a Gem setup section is missing. Would be cool if you could add one. So I geared up a char and did some maps. Lost some xp because I have no chaos res and had beyond spawns =( Maybe I should try to get somehow chaos res but I don't know where. Also did 3 Uber runs with this build was pretty easy. I am only thinking about 1 atm. Should I use blasphemy Assasins Mark or Discipline? With Disciplin I have 6670 ES and 2532 life and without I have 5395 ES


Why should I bother answering your questions if you can't bother to read the OP that I spent a lot of time writing.


I read it already
Hi Matrix!!

Talisman league related question:
I want to know your opinion on having cold damage to spells and BV. I mean, if that is the best combo for talismán league and new surgeons flasks, we should craft our dagger slightly different now, right?
Could you please elaborate?

Thanks in advance!!
Last edited by Black_Magik#1952 on Feb 2, 2016, 7:26:40 PM
Why would you want cold damage on BV?
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Squirt_in_da_face wrote:
Why would you want cold damage on BV?


BIGGER AOE (almost 2x), faster hits, and proc while moving between packs. Also ensure to hit all surrounding enemies


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alvuimil wrote:

Blade vortex PROCCIN EE with cold to spell
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