MoreRain: Life&ES CoC Discharge [2.2]

I will let you know how vspark fairs against coc if I get around to playing it.

regarding mods on the vagan dagger why does the guide say to get fire attack damage but the gear shows a dagger with cold damage? From what I understand the goal is to cycle EE in this way:

-cyclone fire [enemies weak vs cold and light]
-ice nova procs dealing cold [enemies now weak vs fire and lightning]
-discharge procs dealing light/fire [enemies now weak vs cold]
-cyclone fire [enemies weak vs cold and light]
-repeat

-If I wanted to use iAoE then I would actually need to have cyclone be of cold element.

Is this correct? If so, does this mean replacing IN for BV would mess up the EE sequencing?
As you suggested, isnt it better to get the cold damage on a ring that can be potentially swapped out rather than placing it on a vagan dagger?

Finally, is the ideal method of creating a dagger going to be:

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Regal (chance of suffix or prefix)
If suffix, Remove prefixes cannot be changed
Add Multimod + some prefix + Prefixes cannot be changed
Scour => You now have a rare with vagan + whatever prefix you added. (Can even have 2 crafted affixes without the multimod, not sure if that's useful for anything though.
Remove the master crafted mods => You now have a rare Vagan weapon with 1 affix.

multi mod
crit chance
attack speed
spell damage
lightning damage leeched as life?

Total cost: 4 exalts + base dagger

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Nephalim wrote:

I will let you know how vspark fairs against coc if I get around to playing it.

regarding mods on the vagan dagger why does the guide say to get fire attack damage but the gear shows a dagger with cold damage? From what I understand the goal is to cycle EE in this way:

I made my dagger before I made the discharge dps calculator and I thought cold was better, but it isn't.

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-cyclone fire [enemies weak vs cold and light]
-ice nova procs dealing cold [enemies now weak vs fire and lightning]
-discharge procs dealing light/fire [enemies now weak vs cold]
-cyclone fire [enemies weak vs cold and light]
-repeat

-If I wanted to use iAoE then I would actually need to have cyclone be of cold element.

Is this correct? If so, does this mean replacing IN for BV would mess up the EE sequencing?
As you suggested, isnt it better to get the cold damage on a ring that can be potentially swapped out rather than placing it on a vagan dagger?

Yes if you use BV or Inc AoE you want cold on a dagger or ring. I just prefer it on a dagger since I'm not using a mirrored dagger and I have better affixes I can put on a ring than cold damage.

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Finally, is the ideal method of creating a dagger going to be:

Regal (chance of suffix or prefix)
If suffix, Remove prefixes cannot be changed
Add Multimod + some prefix + Prefixes cannot be changed
Scour => You now have a rare with vagan + whatever prefix you added. (Can even have 2 crafted affixes without the multimod, not sure if that's useful for anything though.
Remove the master crafted mods => You now have a rare Vagan weapon with 1 affix.

multi mod
crit chance
attack speed
spell damage
lightning damage leeched as life?

Total cost: 4 exalts + base dagger

Step 2 would turn your dagger blue, that's why this method costs 6ex and not 4.

Also thanks PoE17 for answering. For anyone looking at his gear and getting worried, don't be. I have 3.3k life, 5.2k ES and I'm also immortal.

The reason people use BV in Talisman is to generate flask charges with the new 20% surgeon flasks. I will test whether it's more DPS in standard eventually. What I really need to know is its mechanics (so I can add it to the calculator): how many times per second does one instance hit, and how is its crit chance determined (per hit or per cast)?

BV hits twice per sec. Regardless of cast/attack speed x number of blade you have out there. This is why you can get 1600 lps with a perfect cybils paw playing pure BV build w/ 50 blade - 3200 with two paws. Don't know if that helps your calc because its random. Sometimes I saw 2 blades sometimes 15 in this spec...

Hey all-
Have posted periodically on this thread about gear etc and have some insights about ice nova vs blade vortex

Recently switched to BV and from Ice Nova and the lost CC from proccing nova on 60% of crits is noticeable. This being said the massive increase in charge generation with BV vs single target is a lot more noticeable...

BV is for sure harder on your system and nova clears trash mobs faster but if managed properly i find BV is indeed the superior option

I will link my gear for reference as to how I have implemented blade vortex-
ANY input regarding links and efficiency is appreciated


and my jewelery for additional reference

Build
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwMABLMFQgceDXwOSA5cD6sRLREvEVARlhZvFr8abBslHNwgbiL0JIskqiaVKPoqCyo4KwosnC2oMtE1uTbpN4M8BT1fQZZFR0V-RwZJUUmxS65Ms1AwUlNVS1fJXfJfal-wYeJjQ2SdaPJq-mwLbRlvnnBScFZ3B3yDf8aCm4MJhMWHE4nTjDaPGo_6kBuTJ5Uul5WX9JitmhOaO5u1nKSdrp_foS-iAKcIpyusZq6zsZC4k7k-voC-isBmwzrKStAf0NDQ9dfP2HbZW9te29TfiuNq6QLr7uv173zviO_r8B_w1fId8uH5Nw==

Hi,

one thing you guys might consider is to get a vagan dagger with flat cold damage to spells to trigger ee with blade vortex for AoE and get the cold damage to attacks on a ring...

Did a little bit of testing: blade vortex AoE isn't amazing, but it should help.

Not the best base, but something like:

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Azraphael wrote:

I will link my gear for reference as to how I have implemented blade vortex-
ANY input regarding links and efficiency is appreciated

and my jewelery for additional reference

Build
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwMABLMFQgceDXwOSA5cD6sRLREvEVARlhZvFr8abBslHNwgbiL0JIskqiaVKPoqCyo4KwosnC2oMtE1uTbpN4M8BT1fQZZFR0V-RwZJUUmxS65Ms1AwUlNVS1fJXfJfal-wYeJjQ2SdaPJq-mwLbRlvnnBScFZ3B3yDf8aCm4MJhMWHE4nTjDaPGo_6kBuTJ5Uul5WX9JitmhOaO5u1nKSdrp_foS-iAKcIpyusZq6zsZC4k7k-voC-isBmwzrKStAf0NDQ9dfP2HbZW9te29TfiuNq6QLr7uv173zviO_r8B_w1fId8uH5Nw==

Can you link your jewels as well?
Also, what is the proper method to craft a high ES%, is it just a divine burn once you place all mods?

For diamond rings, is the ideal affix grouping:
-elreon affix
-multi mod
-ES%
-crit strike chance
-life

and either chaos resist or some other form of resists?

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PoE17 wrote:

Gears:

Spoiler

For jewels:
Is there a certain balance between life, ES, dagger attack speed, chaos resist to aim for is it mostly get 2 jewels with mana on hit andg get as many beneficial affixes as possible on the rest? There are some differences in the above and the author's in terms prioritization.
Is there a priority or stat equivalency between the above mentioned affixes? Say is 8 dagger attack speed superior to 8 global crit or 12% area damage or 10 multiplier with cold skills(which affects both IN and discharge)?

It looks like the priority is:
4-5 MGOH
dagger attack speed/attack speed/ attack with with 1 handed weapons
life
global crit/melee crit
global multi
es

Are spell damage while holding a shield and area damage not worthwhile compared to dagger crit or multi?

Finally, is witch the ideal class for this build or is it scion due to her access to the resist cluster + jewel south of her starting? I figured taking both krait(N) and having 28 to all resists (38 total all res) will free up a lot of gear affixes and while taking 18 res for 1 node is generally looked down upon, the jewel socket makes it acceptable.

Just dropping a deathless Uber here:
https://youtu.be/wPnUWNA4SAo

Using Bladevortex and Eleweakness Blashphemy.

Its not the exact tree that matrix uses but the build is inspired by this one.

Link for Gear + Tree is in the video description, ES is low in the video because i use a RotP.

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ZweihundertMorder wrote:

Just dropping a deathless Uber here:
https://youtu.be/wPnUWNA4SAo

Using Bladevortex and Eleweakness Blashphemy.

Its not the exact tree that matrix uses but the build is inspired by this one.

Link for Gear + Tree is in the video description, ES is low in the video because i use a RotP.

Pretty good mate considering you dont even have double leech...

e.g

I can´t use Warlords + Ele weakness as i don´t have Dual Curse.