MoreRain: Life&ES CoC Discharge [2.2]

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MatrixFactor wrote:
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Gripen2 wrote:
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The idea is to order our attacks and spells in a way so that each one sets up the next one to do more damage. The way we do this is by choosing an element for our cyclone attack. My calculator tells me this should be fire.


But you have added cold damage to your dagger? I don't get this EE stuff really.
I guess there is no point in having EE if you got 5L and no elemental damage on your dagger?


My setup is from before I made the calc, and I haven't fixed it.

Also cold on dagger will be ideal when we switch to blade vortex.

On 5L with no 2nd spell, and no elem damage on cyclones EE is purely bad. But just get elem damage and you're good to go.


Completely missed it when I wrote the post blow. I did read the first, like, 15 pages of the thread though! POGchamp

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On a more serious note. I always thought firestorm should be good with cyclone CoC discharge because it generates a truck load of power charges, especially vs bosses. Now with the release of blade vortex I thought it should be pretty awesome too? My budget is a lot lower than most people here btw, which may explain why I don't get a headache thinking about firestorm along with volls devotion discharge.

I'm considering running something similar to this, but cheaper, in Talisman HC.
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Last edited by Zorajin#7086 on Dec 11, 2015, 8:26:24 AM
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MatrixFactor wrote:
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Gripen2 wrote:
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The idea is to order our attacks and spells in a way so that each one sets up the next one to do more damage. The way we do this is by choosing an element for our cyclone attack. My calculator tells me this should be fire.


But you have added cold damage to your dagger? I don't get this EE stuff really.
I guess there is no point in having EE if you got 5L and no elemental damage on your dagger?


My setup is from before I made the calc, and I haven't fixed it.

Also cold on dagger will be ideal when we switch to blade vortex.

On 5L with no 2nd spell, and no elem damage on cyclones EE is purely bad. But just get elem damage and you're good to go.


are we going to switch to vortex? :)
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evilch3n wrote:
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MatrixFactor wrote:

My setup is from before I made the calc, and I haven't fixed it.

Also cold on dagger will be ideal when we switch to blade vortex.

On 5L with no 2nd spell, and no elem damage on cyclones EE is purely bad. But just get elem damage and you're good to go.

are we going to switch to vortex? :)

We're all going to level every single new spell gem regardless :)
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now only thing i need is volls amu :(
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MatrixFactor wrote:


Also cold on dagger will be ideal when we switch to blade vortex.


Yeah, I am very curious about this. The gearing requirements would be massively lower given that you wouldn't need Voll's Devotion. Voll's Protector could also be swapped out for a tankier chest or something like Carcass Jack. I'm also wondering how the tree might be altered and if it makes sense to actually use Cyclone as a damage source (since you could at least partially scale it with phys nodes that also buff vortex) or if RF might be an interesting possibility for a ton more spell damage. RF could be a lot easier with the new 2% life regen implicit talisman. Of course an RF build would probably be better off as a pure life build although hybrid might still be doable. I've done Lowlife RF before and while the gearing is very tricky it can be done.

Of course, BV also opens up the possibility of scaling off Hatred and Herald of Ash as well. Leveling could be very straightforward by selfcasting as crit BV, EK, or Bladefall and smoothly transitioning to CoC once you get the dagger crafted.

I imagine the elreon jewelry is a lot less key now with the mana cost reductions and increase to base mana.


Overall it seems a lot easier to go CoC BV but I just have no idea if the damage would be competitive with discharge.
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Last edited by PoE17#3475 on Dec 12, 2015, 9:36:14 PM
Hi Poe.
Could you show me your tree ?
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PoE17 wrote:
did a quick 82 core run straight after patch with new tree.

Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyVWeVa2pYI
Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vpRJ1gZgi0 (after crash)

I'm leveling all the new spells now, will play around after i get them to lvl 20


I'm amazed with your vids.Could I see your tree too and your gears.Your life/es is very high.
Last edited by jojoe2526#7741 on Dec 13, 2015, 4:26:54 AM
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can someone pls post a 2.1 Tree for Shadows? Thx
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