[2.1] Voltaxic LA by ad1ce (Talisman Rank 3)

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oldhasu wrote:

dark_strand
I looked at your voltaxic character in hardcore talisman, why do you use rare gloves and dont pick every frenzy charge in skill tree? They seem to add alot of dps. And what is the general philosophy for taking them over maligaro's or snakebite? :)

Philosophy is simple - rare gloves provide life and resists. As for DPS - Voltaxic build can get DPS from many slots (e.g. rings and amulet), so rare gloves are a GOOD option. And he's using LC - it's very hard to get enough resists high enough for that chest.


And Snakebite isnt needed when you use LA+Blast Rain.

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

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oldhasu wrote:

dark_strand
I looked at your voltaxic character in hardcore talisman, why do you use rare gloves and dont pick every frenzy charge in skill tree? They seem to add alot of dps. And what is the general philosophy for taking them over maligaro's or snakebite? :)

Philosophy is simple - rare gloves provide life and resists. As for DPS - Voltaxic build can get DPS from many slots (e.g. rings and amulet), so rare gloves are a GOOD option. And he's using LC - it's very hard to get enough resists high enough for that chest.


And Snakebite isnt needed when you use LA+Blast Rain.

Basically this. I tried snakebite/mali and I didn't feel either of them were that big of a deal, especially in HC where you're losing a slot of resist since I prefer LC over kaoms+weapon swap.

For frenzy charges it's the same thing, there's more important nodes I can get on the tree for survivability/dps.

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dark_strand wrote:

For frenzy charges it's the same thing, there's more important nodes I can get on the tree for survivability/dps.

Well, i have to disagree here, getting at least 2 frenzy charges (those with +18% duration nodes) is quite benefitial, because your frenzy charges will last longer and wont fade out often between packs. DPS-wise they're OK too.
ATM i'm running with 11-sec long Frenzy Charges with Snakebite and dont feel it's enough. 13+ seconds are much more convenient.

If you feel OK with 10 seconds charge duration, you may skip charge nodes.

I am at Dried Lake Act 4 at level 54 and I using a Death's Harp...Also what is the point of frenzy? How do Frenzy Charges help? Blast Rain/LA seems like it is a better way to go.

My Damage seems shit...I have been leveling my gems since the beginning and I have to keep shooting and shooting to kill monsters just to try and gain experience...

I have no currency and I am currently using only 4links because it is all I can afford...

BlastRain>SlowerProj>Conc>WED is my 4link on my Harp
LA>LMP>AddLightning>WED on my Helm
HoT>CurseonHit>AssMark>IceGolem Chest

Running Wrath/HoT and I am leveling my blood rage/GMP>Chain on my Second Setup to level the gems

Please help me with leveling...I always usually die on Malachai Trio or Daresso in Cruel and so far my damage feels pretty bad so trying to figure out a 4link setup that can help me kill mobs and bosses faster so I can level...

Also could someone post a leveling tree...Here is my Current tree. Where should I go for more damage or survivability? I thought I would get Trickery because Intell has been an issue.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIAAF4FLQguDY0Pqxa_GYoZjiF2I9Mj9iSLJP0mlTB8Mfo51EMxR35KfUz_TZJOKlFHVUtbr2HiZU1vJ2_ydO11y3b3eu99dX8rhs6Hdo19jX6PYJAKlwaaapuNoJ-jire2u-O9Nr6nwTPDOsSi037aweOf51TqYu2D7g7vevzF_rr_3g==?accountName=RagnarLoftbrook&characterName=VoltaxicHarley

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

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dark_strand wrote:

For frenzy charges it's the same thing, there's more important nodes I can get on the tree for survivability/dps.

Well, i have to disagree here, getting at least 2 frenzy charges (those with +18% duration nodes) is quite benefitial, because your frenzy charges will last longer and wont fade out often between packs. DPS-wise they're OK too.
ATM i'm running with 11-sec long Frenzy Charges with Snakebite and dont feel it's enough. 13+ seconds are much more convenient.

If you feel OK with 10 seconds charge duration, you may skip charge nodes.

Even in temp chains enfeeble t15s a pack doesn't take more than 1-2 seconds so I don't really think charge durations is important since time between packs is extremely low

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RagnarLoftbrook wrote:

I am at Dried Lake Act 4 at level 54 and I using a Death's Harp...My Damage seems shit...

Death's Heart, while a good bow for it's level (32) is crap compared to rare bows at your current level. You can easily purchase a 200+dps bow for 1 chaos or less.

http://poe.trade/search/hararenoakakuw

You may want to consider upgrading again once you hit lvl 56-58. Reset the max lvl req. in the above link.

There is also a 16% Proj Damage node you can take at the Ranger start, to bump your dps a bit. You haven't taken any franzy charge nodes yet (4% MORE damage/charge is significant). If you were to take Master of the Arena node in Duelist area, you could then run your blood rage, bumping your dps up.

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RagnarLoftbrook wrote:

Also what is the point of frenzy? How do Frenzy Charges help? Blast Rain/LA seems like it is a better way to go.

Ad1ce first published this guide (and I ASSume started playing this build/developing his concept) in 2.0, before Blast Rain came out. So Frenzy was his main single target dps. Watching him this league as he climbed the ladder, he continued with what he was comfortable with. I believe it wasn't until he obtained his 2nd 6l Voltaxic that he seriously played around with Blast Rain.

As of now, I think LA + BR is the way to go. You still need frenzy tho to maintain/gain frenzy charges during long boss fights, especially those with few/no ads. However, a non-linked frenzy is just fine! The free links can be used for other utility/survivability skills.

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RagnarLoftbrook wrote:

Also could someone post a leveling tree...

Many of us don't like to post "leveling trees" because personal playstyle and rng'd gearing play a huge role in how each of us level. Ad1ce did post somewhere nearer the beginning of his thread his concept; Ranger, Duelist, Shadow, then Scion areas.

I looked at your tree and will state my own personal thoughts, based upon your gear and my playstyle.

Imo, you took too many crit nodes too early. I would have skipped Heartseeker crit multi, and the 2 crit multi+chance nodes in Lethality cluster, saving them until lvl 90+.

I would have pathed on the far right side of the tree to the shadow area, for easy access to Acrobatics and Fatal Toxins.

Take that Master of the Arena node and use your blood rage!!

Take some frenzy nodes!!

Consider temporarily taking Essence Sap to solve mana issues.

Take Fatal Toxins cluster when ready to equip snakes and VR.

As you obtain good jewels, take those nodes ASAP. In fact, Static Electricity is a nice bump to dps while leveling.

My concept at your level; http://bit.do/Lvl-54. From there, take frenzy and Acro, then the shadow area until Assasination. Then work your way into the Scion life wheel.

Read MortalKombat3's and dark_strand's comments on the past few pages.....some good stuff there. Also, the three of us have our profiles set to public, so look at our trees/gear/gem selection.

In conclusion, thank you so much Ad1ce for publishing this guide. I wasn't going to post again in this thread until I reached my personal gaol; which I have been trying for, for the past 18 months or so......lvl 90 achievemnt in HC. Regardless of whether I make it or not, I have always wanted to do a Voltaxic Rift ranger.....and I am haveing a BLAST with it!!!!!!!
@MortalKombat3, thank you for your Mara life twist....I likes eet!

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Bjorn_Angannon wrote:

In conclusion, thank you so much Ad1ce for publishing this guide. I wasn't going to post again in this thread until I reached my personal gaol; which I have been trying for, for the past 18 months or so......lvl 90 achievemnt in HC. Regardless of whether I make it or not, I have always wanted to do a Voltaxic Rift ranger.....and I am haveing a BLAST with it!!!!!!!
@MortalKombat3, thank you for your Mara life twist....I likes eet!

Thx for your message!

I am really pleased that my guides are useful for someone.
But I think I will not update this guide for 2.2 because I'm tired of playing with LA (x2 lvl100 >.<). So next league I will play with something interesting and maybe not so powerful. Anyway it will be another archer I'm sure. Can't tell more at this point, don't want to spoil :P

chinsoll trapper!

I just want to start off by saying thank you for the suggestions and the help you are providing Adv1ce & Bjorn_Angannon and whoever else added to the discussion...

I am new to HC and to leveling Bowers so I am taking a little more time to progress..I just made it to Merciless and I Picked up Master of the Arena and I started using some blood rage, which feels like it has added more damage...

I have the 4 link Frenzy Setup for bosses to get frenzy charges which helps me move faster and shoot more blast rain...LA has been OK but I am just leveling til with it and 1 Elreon ring to help me with the mana cost. LA>GMP>Addedlightning>WED & Blaste Rain>WED>Conc>SlowerProj & Frenzy(Q16)>WED>FA>AddedLightning I am leveling an LMP (Q16) on my offhand if I needed it.

I just got to the point I can Equip snakebites but I feel like I should wait til I can equip voltaxic with it.

If someone could check my bow and gear could you give me some thoughts on if my bow is better then Death's Harp? I understand a few pieces of gear need to be replaced like my chest but should I go Armor/Ev over just pure EV? I have a Hyrri's Ire but not sure I want to use it so just trying to get some advice on what I can replace...I kind of would like to do this on a budget...I do have a Voltaxic & Snakebites already and I know Kaoms is what people are recommending but I need a budget chest until I can afford it.

When should I start investing points into Frenzy Charges? Fatal toxins seems Awesome but I will probably wait on it until I get to level 65.

Any more suggestions would be great...So far this has felt a lot better then where I was a day ago, but still in Act 1 so we will see.

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RagnarLoftbrook wrote:

If someone could check my bow and gear could you give me some thoughts on if my bow is better then Death's Harp?

Man, just get Chin Sol or Lioneye's Glare till you get Voltaxic.