[2.1] Voltaxic LA by ad1ce (Talisman Rank 3)

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ScoutHound wrote:


What do you guys think about using CoH, HoT, warlords to generate endurance charges and then using CWDT Immortal Call? Would this work for some extra survivability?




HoT has limited AoE and doesnt generate many charges. You better just use CWDT-enfeeble.
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So I decided to get a Death's Harp and I am using 1 Elreon ring -6 Reduce Mana cost and I am currently level 49...

What is the Ideal Setup for LA for a 4link? I am using LA>AddedLightning>GMP>WED & my blast rain is Blast Rain>WED>Conc>FA...Is it better to drop Added lightning for Chain?


Also do I get Heartseeker around my level or do I spec into it later? I was told to do it, then I was told not to do it... I picked up the Lethality nodes on the bottom and I was able to spec all the way over to golem blood...Now I was working toward filling out Heartseeker then going to go Coordination...Also does anyone use Frenzy? I have the 4link setup for it but I never use it usually because it seems non beneficial. What is the point of frenzy? Blast rain seems like it is great but it feels inconsistent with damage...sometimes it does a ton then sometimes it doesn't.

I picked up the Intell node on the bottom by King of the Hill to try and help me sustain using Wrath & HoT to level...I setup a Hot>CurseonHit>AssMark to try and help with more damage.

Do I try and get Pure Evasion armor or do I go Armor/EV to help me with survivability? I do like that I feel more evasive with the Ranger then I did with Shadow but I just need to know which would help because Act 4 Cruel usually kills me due to Malachai or the Spike Phys damage.

So far I am liking the build but just need some help. Any suggestions would be helpful...I am in HC and I am worried when facing bosses because of the massive damage they can do.
Last edited by RagnarLoftbrook#5586 on Jan 23, 2016, 4:38:25 PM
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ScoutHound wrote:
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dark_strand wrote:
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ScoutHound wrote:
I think I am getting as close to being done, gear wise, as I am going to get. I spent 2 ex on bow, 1.5 ex on armor (I alched it to current stats), and probably around 2-4 ex for everything else. I can't remember. I found Rats, the belt, the talisman, and chaosed one of the rings.

My life is 3900. My gems are all low level with no quality. I almost think that Ringwald's Quills is the best quiver choice (enabling us to get rid of chain in 6-link).

While I am impressed with the build, I still think Windripper is a better mapper.

Any tips on how to finish this build? It is good but not rave-worthy so far.



I'm assuming you're not trolling so I'm going to tell you that you're not even close to completing a voltaxic character and is hardly a good voltaxic build. Your gem setup isn't nearly optimal especially on your 6 link and curse on hit, no WED on neck, no flat lightning on rings, no coil/kaoms, and with 3900 life you are not even near the point where this build excels. It is one of if not the quickest high tier clear speeds in the current meta if you don't count vaal spark on maps where it shines.



Jeez. I did NOT say, "hey guys, check out my BIS gear." I said that this is as close as I might get to a finished character. I am merely looking for advice.
I do appreciate the criticism (as snarky and negative as it is). I will try to upgrade some of my rings and all. I don't know if a 6link coil is realistic for me.

Dark_Strand, would you please post your BIS gear so I know what to look for? I am pretty slow and would love the help. Thanks!

What do you guys think about using CoH, HoT, warlords to generate endurance charges and then using CWDT Immortal Call? Would this work for some extra survivability?



Sorry how I came off, I was under the impression you were thinking the build wasn't that great but it's hard to judge this build until you invest a lot of money into it and do high tier maps.

The things that stand out to me is you have no power charge generation due to not running HoT/CoH/Assassins mark which is heavily required on voltaxic due to our inherently low crit chance due to wearing a voltaxic, you currently have poachers mark but you already use blood rage so frenzy charges shouldn't be an issue and assassins mark would give a dps upgrade across the board with power charges + increased chance to crit and 40% multi, it's only not required when you run with a support.
If you want endurance charges I would go enduring cry then run a cwdt+inc dur+immortal call.

LMP in your lightning arrow setup while not reducing your damage by 25%, gmp will help with shotgunning packs and killing huge packs and is definitely worth it to run. My gear isn't going to be BiS and may seem dumb in terms of rings because I'm experimenting with different trees, it's pretty hard to get BiS gear in hardcord. It should be a lot easier for you in softcore but I would try for 20-22k self buffed LA dps in your h/o, 175 res for ele weak + curse, 5k life. You can drop the crafted life on your rings and go for flat lightning since dying isn't as big as a risk but if you feel like it makes you too squishy you can wait until you upgrade more pieces for better life. WED is a requirement on every slot so make sure to find a new neck as soon as you can.

You should find that your blast rain dps will be higher in a 5L with void manipulation instead of added lightning damage since you run poison on it. Quality and leveled gems is extremely big for changing your dps on voltaxic, the gems you really need quality on would be:
WED - Added Lightning - GMP - Void Manip - Increased Duration - Herald of Thunder - Conc - Blood rage - Enduring cry(non dps related but it's one of the best quality of life improvements in the game due to letting you enduring cry mobs that are almost off screen), a 21 wrath when you can afford one is also huge. I personally think vaal haste is worth running in your cwdt setup since you get the increased duration from the links and I can maintain it almost 100% of a map but some people choose not to run those 4 gems.

If you need any other help you can always pm me but I've never played softcore so I don't know the most about what sacrifices you can make in gear for dps but you will need to be able to run ele weakness maps since it's a free 15% pack size and you will be rolling it a lot on high tiers.

edit: forgot to put that 23 qual herald of thunder is also something to look up later on
Last edited by dark_strand#4049 on Jan 23, 2016, 9:26:58 PM
dark_strand
I looked at your voltaxic character in hardcore talisman, why do you use rare gloves and dont pick every frenzy charge in skill tree? They seem to add alot of dps. And what is the general philosophy for taking them over maligaro's or snakebite? :)


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oldhasu wrote:
dark_strand
I looked at your voltaxic character in hardcore talisman, why do you use rare gloves and dont pick every frenzy charge in skill tree? They seem to add alot of dps. And what is the general philosophy for taking them over maligaro's or snakebite? :)


Philosophy is simple - rare gloves provide life and resists. As for DPS - Voltaxic build can get DPS from many slots (e.g. rings and amulet), so rare gloves are a GOOD option. And he's using LC - it's very hard to get enough resists high enough for that chest.


And Snakebite isnt needed when you use LA+Blast Rain.
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Last edited by MortalKombat3#6961 on Jan 24, 2016, 7:19:14 AM
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MortalKombat3 wrote:
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oldhasu wrote:
dark_strand
I looked at your voltaxic character in hardcore talisman, why do you use rare gloves and dont pick every frenzy charge in skill tree? They seem to add alot of dps. And what is the general philosophy for taking them over maligaro's or snakebite? :)


Philosophy is simple - rare gloves provide life and resists. As for DPS - Voltaxic build can get DPS from many slots (e.g. rings and amulet), so rare gloves are a GOOD option. And he's using LC - it's very hard to get enough resists high enough for that chest.


And Snakebite isnt needed when you use LA+Blast Rain.

Basically this. I tried snakebite/mali and I didn't feel either of them were that big of a deal, especially in HC where you're losing a slot of resist since I prefer LC over kaoms+weapon swap.

For frenzy charges it's the same thing, there's more important nodes I can get on the tree for survivability/dps.
Last edited by dark_strand#4049 on Jan 24, 2016, 11:59:01 AM
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dark_strand wrote:

For frenzy charges it's the same thing, there's more important nodes I can get on the tree for survivability/dps.

Well, i have to disagree here, getting at least 2 frenzy charges (those with +18% duration nodes) is quite benefitial, because your frenzy charges will last longer and wont fade out often between packs. DPS-wise they're OK too.
ATM i'm running with 11-sec long Frenzy Charges with Snakebite and dont feel it's enough. 13+ seconds are much more convenient.

If you feel OK with 10 seconds charge duration, you may skip charge nodes.

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I am at Dried Lake Act 4 at level 54 and I using a Death's Harp...Also what is the point of frenzy? How do Frenzy Charges help? Blast Rain/LA seems like it is a better way to go.

My Damage seems shit...I have been leveling my gems since the beginning and I have to keep shooting and shooting to kill monsters just to try and gain experience...

I have no currency and I am currently using only 4links because it is all I can afford...

BlastRain>SlowerProj>Conc>WED is my 4link on my Harp
LA>LMP>AddLightning>WED on my Helm
HoT>CurseonHit>AssMark>IceGolem Chest

Running Wrath/HoT and I am leveling my blood rage/GMP>Chain on my Second Setup to level the gems

Please help me with leveling...I always usually die on Malachai Trio or Daresso in Cruel and so far my damage feels pretty bad so trying to figure out a 4link setup that can help me kill mobs and bosses faster so I can level...

Also could someone post a leveling tree...Here is my Current tree. Where should I go for more damage or survivability? I thought I would get Trickery because Intell has been an issue.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIAAF4FLQguDY0Pqxa_GYoZjiF2I9Mj9iSLJP0mlTB8Mfo51EMxR35KfUz_TZJOKlFHVUtbr2HiZU1vJ2_ydO11y3b3eu99dX8rhs6Hdo19jX6PYJAKlwaaapuNoJ-jire2u-O9Nr6nwTPDOsSi037aweOf51TqYu2D7g7vevzF_rr_3g==?accountName=RagnarLoftbrook&characterName=VoltaxicHarley


Last edited by RagnarLoftbrook#5586 on Jan 24, 2016, 4:16:12 PM
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MortalKombat3 wrote:
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dark_strand wrote:

For frenzy charges it's the same thing, there's more important nodes I can get on the tree for survivability/dps.

Well, i have to disagree here, getting at least 2 frenzy charges (those with +18% duration nodes) is quite benefitial, because your frenzy charges will last longer and wont fade out often between packs. DPS-wise they're OK too.
ATM i'm running with 11-sec long Frenzy Charges with Snakebite and dont feel it's enough. 13+ seconds are much more convenient.

If you feel OK with 10 seconds charge duration, you may skip charge nodes.



Even in temp chains enfeeble t15s a pack doesn't take more than 1-2 seconds so I don't really think charge durations is important since time between packs is extremely low
Last edited by dark_strand#4049 on Jan 24, 2016, 5:00:40 PM
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RagnarLoftbrook wrote:
I am at Dried Lake Act 4 at level 54 and I using a Death's Harp...My Damage seems shit...

Death's Heart, while a good bow for it's level (32) is crap compared to rare bows at your current level. You can easily purchase a 200+dps bow for 1 chaos or less.

http://poe.trade/search/hararenoakakuw

You may want to consider upgrading again once you hit lvl 56-58. Reset the max lvl req. in the above link.

There is also a 16% Proj Damage node you can take at the Ranger start, to bump your dps a bit. You haven't taken any franzy charge nodes yet (4% MORE damage/charge is significant). If you were to take Master of the Arena node in Duelist area, you could then run your blood rage, bumping your dps up.

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RagnarLoftbrook wrote:
Also what is the point of frenzy? How do Frenzy Charges help? Blast Rain/LA seems like it is a better way to go.

Ad1ce first published this guide (and I ASSume started playing this build/developing his concept) in 2.0, before Blast Rain came out. So Frenzy was his main single target dps. Watching him this league as he climbed the ladder, he continued with what he was comfortable with. I believe it wasn't until he obtained his 2nd 6l Voltaxic that he seriously played around with Blast Rain.

As of now, I think LA + BR is the way to go. You still need frenzy tho to maintain/gain frenzy charges during long boss fights, especially those with few/no ads. However, a non-linked frenzy is just fine! The free links can be used for other utility/survivability skills.

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RagnarLoftbrook wrote:
Also could someone post a leveling tree...

Many of us don't like to post "leveling trees" because personal playstyle and rng'd gearing play a huge role in how each of us level. Ad1ce did post somewhere nearer the beginning of his thread his concept; Ranger, Duelist, Shadow, then Scion areas.

I looked at your tree and will state my own personal thoughts, based upon your gear and my playstyle.

Imo, you took too many crit nodes too early. I would have skipped Heartseeker crit multi, and the 2 crit multi+chance nodes in Lethality cluster, saving them until lvl 90+.

I would have pathed on the far right side of the tree to the shadow area, for easy access to Acrobatics and Fatal Toxins.

Take that Master of the Arena node and use your blood rage!!

Take some frenzy nodes!!

Consider temporarily taking Essence Sap to solve mana issues.

Take Fatal Toxins cluster when ready to equip snakes and VR.

As you obtain good jewels, take those nodes ASAP. In fact, Static Electricity is a nice bump to dps while leveling.

My concept at your level; http://bit.do/Lvl-54. From there, take frenzy and Acro, then the shadow area until Assasination. Then work your way into the Scion life wheel.

Read MortalKombat3's and dark_strand's comments on the past few pages.....some good stuff there. Also, the three of us have our profiles set to public, so look at our trees/gear/gem selection.

In conclusion, thank you so much Ad1ce for publishing this guide. I wasn't going to post again in this thread until I reached my personal gaol; which I have been trying for, for the past 18 months or so......lvl 90 achievemnt in HC. Regardless of whether I make it or not, I have always wanted to do a Voltaxic Rift ranger.....and I am haveing a BLAST with it!!!!!!!
@MortalKombat3, thank you for your Mara life twist....I likes eet!
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