[2.2 Video Guide] Beginner's Build: Dual Flame Totem, Blood Magic Chieftain [Atziri & HC/SC Viable]

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Dextarx wrote:

I'm level 80 and doing maps well but this is only my second character and I am having some trouble reaching a higher tooltip value. I want to get at least 12k or so before attempting atziri. If someone can have a look over my gear and maybe suggest what I'm missing. I run dual wield right now and have just over 10kdps with my Lioneye's Remorse its closer to 8.5k. I'm confused how people are hitting 14k++ on tooltip dps without specing crit or more heavily dps in passive points. Anyway here is my gear, any suggestions are welcome. Thanks

I know my sockets are slightly off on my chest (having trouble rolling 2r 1g 1b on pure int chest) and my "added chaos dmg" is under leveled so I am going to swap that in for the "added lighting dmg" as soon as its a dps upgrade.

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The gem level upgrade to 19 will boost your tooltip dps by 1.000 by itself. The support gems probably another 300 to 500. A 5L can do easily the same for you. Cast speed probably would have been the better enchant on the weapon.

Here's an upgrade of my Witch. Level 84. I've already specced into Unyielding (decreased crit damage taken + a lot of armour) and have not touched the Heart of Flame circle yet. With Herald of Thunder and Flame Golem I have 11k dps, melting 73 maps atm.

Yesterday I played a selffound Mao Kun with ease (ok... not that hard) and was rewarded with an Exalted. My second this league. Maybe I will buy Infernale Mantle and switch around a bit although I'm really happy with 56% phys. dmg reduction with three Endurance Charges up.

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DeadlyDemon21 wrote:

Atziri down at First attempt in warbands lague! xD
I was originally meant to go for barrage CoC build but because of the nerf to shotgunning and life leech gravely hindered its dps as well as survivability. and i stumbled upon this guide and tought to give it a try.
This is probably one of the cheapest atziri viable builds out there and its efficient. It makes your investment more than worth it.
killed her at level 83 with 14k tooltip dps ( 28k with dual totems I guess :))
This is my gear. it's really cheap under 3ex. the only expensive thing here is 5L infernal mantle.
(Which is also happen to be very cheap in standard lague)

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Gratz! I tried yesterday with similar tooltip dmg (15k with Saffel's Frame shield), but i really had problems with adds, i thought FT build would kill them easy, but every single time they healed Atziri for like half HP. Placed in the middle or at the corner, doesnt matter, still shooting like crazy without finishing them... Where did you placed them? I saw bunch of videos, and they make it look like killing adds is easy, but i didnt see any placement trick i can use, so i guess they just have much more damage. I can go up to 21k dps without shield, but not sure if that doesnt kill me quickly. Well, we will see next time... :-)

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DeadlyDemon21 wrote:

Atziri down at First attempt in warbands lague! xD
I was originally meant to go for barrage CoC build but because of the nerf to shotgunning and life leech gravely hindered its dps as well as survivability. and i stumbled upon this guide and tought to give it a try.
This is probably one of the cheapest atziri viable builds out there and its efficient. It makes your investment more than worth it.
killed her at level 83 with 14k tooltip dps ( 28k with dual totems I guess :))
This is my gear. it's really cheap under 3ex. the only expensive thing here is 5L infernal mantle.
(Which is also happen to be very cheap in standard lague)

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How did you manage to get so much DPS?

I am currently at 76 in tempest and took all the damage nodes already, and my flametotem has only 8k~ DPS with a 5link

I'm 65 and got 3.4k dps w herald... 4.1k life tho so I hope soem noods will boost.

Hello.
First of all I am using the unique jewel clear mind that which is giving me a 3k dps boost. despite high roll ones are being expensive i used a 46% roll for my first atziri kill which is as low as 6-7c at poe.trade.
Get a rare wand wand with psudo 60+ spell damage and 18+ cast speed. I bought mine for 3c :)
Also for atziri runs and mid map farming a spell damage+ life shield a lot better than lioneye's remorse or any armour shield for that matter. spell crit is a nice bonus to have and if you could craft cast speed on it's GOLDEN!! prefer craftable cast speed over spell crit since we are not crit based.ES also helps but prefer high life mod over es at all costs!
Take all the totem nodes and the arsonist node which is located at right side of the tree.also take life and regen nodes.Leave the fire damage nodes at top of witch for endgame. we take those last.Get a dexterty on your gear as well as intellegence to support vaal haste and wands which require very high intelligence (245 for prophecy).Get strength as well it will imporve your life pool and greately increase your dps if you have a 6L with iron will :)

Here's my skilltree at level 83. i forgot to post it in previous post.

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evilmindcz wrote:

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DeadlyDemon21 wrote:

Atziri down at First attempt in warbands lague! xD
I was originally meant to go for barrage CoC build but because of the nerf to shotgunning and life leech gravely hindered its dps as well as survivability. and i stumbled upon this guide and tought to give it a try.
This is probably one of the cheapest atziri viable builds out there and its efficient. It makes your investment more than worth it.
killed her at level 83 with 14k tooltip dps ( 28k with dual totems I guess :))
This is my gear. it's really cheap under 3ex. the only expensive thing here is 5L infernal mantle.
(Which is also happen to be very cheap in standard lague)

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Gratz! I tried yesterday with similar tooltip dmg (15k with Saffel's Frame shield), but i really had problems with adds, i thought FT build would kill them easy, but every single time they healed Atziri for like half HP. Placed in the middle or at the corner, doesnt matter, still shooting like crazy without finishing them... Where did you placed them? I saw bunch of videos, and they make it look like killing adds is easy, but i didnt see any placement trick i can use, so i guess they just have much more damage. I can go up to 21k dps without shield, but not sure if that doesnt kill me quickly. Well, we will see next time... :-)

Honestly I was having same problem like you while dealing with those minions especially at the time when there were 3 waves of them at final healing phases.I could do nothing but let atziri heal while trying to get as many minions as possible with totems.I might be wrong but atziri seems to do a limited no. of healing phases despite being healed or not.
You do not need a saffel's frame at all for atziri.you just need to dodge the flameblast which needs to get used to but still its much easier for our build since all we need to do is place totems and run away to safety :D
you can go 21k dps without saffels which is actually a lot better especially in her split phase that i had so much trouble keeping up. also im pretty sure you would be able to kill the minions in her healing phase with relative ease with that much dps.
Good luck :)

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DeadlyDemon21 wrote:

Here's my skilltree at level 83. i forgot to post it in previous post.

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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwMAAuMEBwSzBg4GoAelCfYLYQ48EFgQzBEtFCAUcRkuGjgaPh8CJbwnLyftKS4rtiycLKcyNDLRNZI6WDrYPC1FR0WdRtdJskrESshTUlXGVw1Y5VnzWiteXV8_Y_1khGaeaPJuqnGFcg94aXrmfIN8uIIHghCCm4Nfg8yD24dljEaQVZo7muCiAKPyp5Stja9sr7exQrXytz7AZsMTxPbGrs9-0f3SIdR81abYvdlh2XzaudtP37Dfv-DD4XPr7uw47TzvDvAf8azyQfau-JP5vf4K?accountName=DeadlyDemon21&characterName=TotemPrince

I am also at same level, but no idea how you people manage to get high dex, int. i even needed to spend 2 passives to get both +30 points.
i still don't know how people can run without a proper shield, taking so much damage even with Lioneye's.

got pretty good wand:

not sure what would the best roll for it tho.
my tree

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Moksu wrote:

I am also at same level, but no idea how you people manage to get high dex, int. i even needed to spend 2 passives to get both +30 points.
i still don't know how people can run without a proper shield, taking so much damage even with Lioneye's.

got pretty good wand:

not sure what would the best roll for it tho.

I don't know much about Tempest Economy, but in Warbands you'll get Gear with Dex/Int/Str and high Resistances at very reasonable prices. And since the old T1-Rolls and new T2-Rolls are pretty common you wouldn't hopefully loose too much Strength for Iron Will (which I stil think is a rather underwhelming, given how good you can scale Totems with Crit for now.)

And well, I wouldn't call Lioneye's Remorse a proper Shield for Spellcasters in the long run. Yes, you gain Armour, but lets face it, unless you manage to run Determination and/or Grace you will most likely don't have enough Armour to feel safe, if ever. Physical Hits are big nowadays and pierce armour with quite some ease.

Regarding your Wand: I don't understand the question. Is there any other viable option than Castspeed?



On a different note: If you're 85+ and playing in a Softcore-League, go hard on Crit. You might looose a bit of Armour and Regen, but will quite likely double your dps. GGG really loves Totem-Crit it seems.

And and well: You really should spec out of "Totem Attack, Cast Speed and Damage" if you put points in it, since in my testing it only affects Spells cast with the Spelltotem Gem, not the prepackaged ones. And 8% Damage is just not worth taking in most cases.

Another question:

Why use Extended duration with HoT? It just massively increases mana reserved for no apparent purpose.

@Moksu If its difficult or expensive to get dex and int on rings/amulets try to get then on helm ,gloves and boots. It would be much cheaper. leave rings only for life+resist. also by doing this you can swap those rings for mf rings whenever necessary. Keeping invested passive points for stats isn't very good for engame, although if you have rally good gear ,its nothing bad about it.
also if that wand is viable for cast speed then go for it.it will significantly improve your dps

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Toartmock wrote:

And and well: You really should spec out of "Totem Attack, Cast Speed and Damage" if you put points in it, since in my testing it only affects Spells cast with the Spelltotem Gem, not the prepackaged ones. And 8% Damage is just not worth taking in most cases.

The tooltip is just buggy but the dps will rise. Test it naked or better with a low level char and count the spells cast until the totem disappears. We discussed this earlier this thread.

The 4% totem cast speed + 8% totem dmg node is one of the best "small" nodes you can get.