[outdated] Caustic Arrow Solo Map MFer (20/300+)

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iswirl wrote:

Would 76 qty and 150 rarity or 229 rarity and 33 qty be better?

also use 71 rarity gem or 43 qty gem

C = (1 + IIQ/100) * (1 + IIR/100)


C = (1 + 76/100) * (1 + 150/100)
C = 1.76 * 2.5
C = 4.4

C = (1 + 33/100) * (1 + 229/100)
C = 1.33 * 3.29
C = 4.37


76/150 is, theoretically, slightly better.

Use that formula to calculate C value in the future to determine what ratio you should be working with.

That said, from my experience, for the purposes of recipe completion it's always better to prioritize IIR first until you're above 250 IIR. So I would drop your 9/21 Ventor's gamble (as per my discussion which you can find in the FAQ) for an Andvarius ring. Your 9/38 Ventor's is good enough to run with instead of Andy for that slot.

If I'm understanding your gearing right, with the IIQ gem slotted in that should put you at 67/199 with the IIQ gem and a perfect 15/70 Andvarius, or 24/270 with IIR

C = Andvarius, Ventors, IIQ
C = (1 + 67/100) * (1 + 199/100)
C = 1.67 * 2.99
C = 4.993

C = Andvarius, Ventors, IIR
C = (1 + 24/100) * (1 + 270/100)
C = 1.24 * 3.7
C = 4.588

As you can see, regardless of which gem you use, replacing that lower-rolled 9/21 Ventor's with a perfect Andy is better, and significantly better when you run the IIQ gem.

Although I will reiterate: in my experience this C value thing is a bit misleading until IIR is above 250. YMMV.

if we cannot get drillneck, what quiver are we looking for?! only life/res?! wht else can we get from quiver?!

and is a 4L+2 better than a 5L+1?!

Life / res is correct.

4L +2 is better, but you can buy a white 5L for 3-5c and then spend maybe 60-80 alterations to roll +2 so it's not a big deal.

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Serleth wrote:

Life / res is correct.

4L +2 is better, but you can buy a white 5L for 3-5c and then spend maybe 60-80 alterations to roll +2 so it's not a big deal.

im in the enw league, 5L arent 3-5c atm, they are around 15-20c and its a lot for the start of a league, only day 2

kinda searching how to lvl up xD im 57 atm

Got mine day 2 of Warbands, 7c.

Just did a Darkshrine poe.trade search, range is 3-8c.

So, dunno what you're talking about.

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Serleth wrote:

Got mine day 2 of Warbands, 7c.

Just did a Darkshrine poe.trade search, range is 3-8c.

So, dunno what you're talking about.

1st: u are not a casual player

2nd: those 3-8c arent ilvl 63 and cannot roll +2

but ill get it , i saw 1-2 at 10c !!


question:
why dont we use blood rage to generate frenzy charge?

Wasn't about casual or not, was about cost of the bow in relationship to the time the league had been active.

RE: Blood Rage. We do. Check the gem links spoiler. It's also the reason we get Heart of Oak, Master of the Arena, and Golem's Blood, to balance out Blood Rage's degeneration. The Frenzy setup is for running reduced recovery or vulnerability maps where Blood Rage isn't an option, and for breaking barrels/pots etc.

basically my opinion with this buil in a new league:

-getting 5L+2 bow is quite easy
-buying jewel early is impossible since this build is meta atm, better not go jewel route to start.
-getting empower lvl 3 is impossible early on, so u need to use faster projectile instead(no idea how u can get an empower lvl3 xD)
-quiver is a good source of life+res, since drillneck cost too much early on
-frenzy charge are an easy way of getting more dps, while u cant afford jewels


question:
what is the best way to get empower lvl 3 early in a league?!

Yep, that's precisely why I have a pre-jewel tree.

If your time is limited and you can't level an Empower 3 on your own, the build will eventually enable you to afford one. They're fairly cheap (1-2ex) for a corrupted Empower 3 although they're probably more like 3-4ex early.. Once you have the build complete (at least +2 bow and Drillneck, with dual Andvarius and Goldwyrm) it takes about 4 hours or so to farm up 2ex worth of currency.

So if you can only afford to put in 2 hours a day, it's about four days to get one @ 4ex. Not bad.

Alternately, you can level an Empower from 1-2 yourself and hope your corruption hits to get it to level 3 quickly.

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xenochaos1 wrote:

question:
what is the best way to get empower lvl 3 early in a league?!

In the Darkshrine leagues, you can sacrifice crit multi items for a chance to gain 20% quality for some item in your inventory. Thus, it's easy to get a 20% quality empower in Darkshrine which will halve the leveling time.

Nonetheless, it still takes quite awhile to get to level 3 even with 20 quality.