Well in my opinion your an idiot then, you have ignored other people point of view this entire thread and stubbornly stuck to your ridiculous arguments regardless. I'm done, see you in the beta, oh wait......
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facelessman122 wrote:
Well in my opinion your an idiot then, you have ignored other people point of view this entire thread and stubbornly stuck to your ridiculous arguments regardless. I'm done, see you in the beta, oh wait......
You cannot persuade me otherwise. It's objective facts lol.
If player 1 gets into beta from donating $ they will have some type of advantage of a non beta playing user at launch. Whether it be gameplay knowledge, boss mechanics, monster ai, town circumnavigation, etv...
You're the stubborn one, not me.
"Good thing they nerfed the carto, it wasn't fun to find one in every map." - Haborym
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Posted bymonkuar#2123on Apr 23, 2015, 3:09:15 PM
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GGG announcement: *Beta now open to all*
... Moments later in the forums:
QQ "Game is bugged 0/10" QQ
QQ "Character name unavailable. PoE sucks!" QQ
QQ "I didn't get a shavs on the beach. game is rigged" QQ
QQ "My mommy told me I was adopted" QQ
QQ "Diablo 3 is bestest game evar" QQ
QQ "You can earn $1800 a month sitting at home..." QQ
Let's face it... the QQ's will never, ever be satisfied.
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Posted byCambob#4516on Apr 23, 2015, 3:09:42 PM
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Munion wrote:
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monkuar wrote:
No. Do you know what /s? It's sarcasm.
Not every boss and mechanic is GOING to stay the same. Yes I agree with that.
But, most will and that is still going to be advantage for cb players. Don't you understand that?
That is EXACTLY what i was saying.......
You claimed player 2 had an advantage because he knew about a boss mechanic from closed beta. A mechanic that did NOT change.... Player 1 if he cared about competing should have looked up the fight before going in, knowing it was in CB and CB had no NDA, and dying to the same mechanic... If he didn't care this is all irrelevant in this case and not p2w anyway...
Yeah, but looking up a boss mechanic is not the same as actually playing or fighting the boss in-game.... Two totally different things.
He still would have known about vaal smash, It has an extremely easy tell. None of the PoE fights are too hard mechanically to learn from a video. I guess you consider every beta with a payed key p2w then... I'm sorry then, that must really suck hating on so many games for doing something extremely common.
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Posted byMunion#0833on Apr 23, 2015, 3:10:00 PM
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monkuar wrote:
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Munion wrote:
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monkuar wrote:
No. Do you know what /s? It's sarcasm.
Not every boss and mechanic is GOING to stay the same. Yes I agree with that.
But, most will and that is still going to be advantage for cb players. Don't you understand that?
That is EXACTLY what i was saying.......
You claimed player 2 had an advantage because he knew about a boss mechanic from closed beta. A mechanic that did NOT change.... Player 1 if he cared about competing should have looked up the fight before going in, knowing it was in CB and CB had no NDA, and dying to the same mechanic... If he didn't care this is all irrelevant in this case and not p2w anyway...
Yeah, but looking up a boss mechanic is not the same as actually playing or fighting the boss in-game.... Two totally different things.
What if GGG nerf streamers builds? are they gonna be advantage because of the closed beta access?
there you have your answer. NO they wont have any real difference, now stop bitching.
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Munion wrote:
He still would have known about vaal smash, It has an extremely easy tell. None of the PoE fights are too hard mechanically to learn from a video. I guess you consider every beta with a payed key p2w then... I'm sorry then, that must really suck hating on so many games for doing something extremely common.
'He still would have known about vaal smash', Yea I'm curious where you grabbed this statement from? Out of thin air in the Himalayas? The player 2 WOULD HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE GAME. How would he KNOW abut the boss Mechanics? Your argument is literally worse than magic.
You're just throwing in random straws with no weight whatsoever, it's sad.
"Good thing they nerfed the carto, it wasn't fun to find one in every map." - Haborym Last edited by monkuar#2123 on Apr 23, 2015, 3:13:22 PM
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Posted bymonkuar#2123on Apr 23, 2015, 3:12:46 PM
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facelessman122 wrote:
Well in my opinion your an idiot then, you have ignored other people point of view this entire thread and stubbornly stuck to your ridiculous arguments regardless. I'm done, see you in the beta, oh wait......
You cannot persuade me otherwise. It's objective facts lol.
If player 1 gets into beta from donating $ they will have some type of advantage of a non beta playing user at launch. Whether it be gameplay knowledge, boss mechanics, monster ai, town circumnavigation, etv...
You're the stubborn one, not me.
-The gameplay is the same, a fucking ARPG, click and spam skills.
-Vaal punch mechanics, evade the punch clicking away.
-Mosters AI, 2 attacks max.
-Town ... well this is a not OPEN WORLD RPG.
Also, i repeat the question.
What if GGG decide to nerf streamers most common build?
What happen?
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sufferthegestalt wrote:
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monkuar wrote:
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facelessman122 wrote:
Well in my opinion your an idiot then, you have ignored other people point of view this entire thread and stubbornly stuck to your ridiculous arguments regardless. I'm done, see you in the beta, oh wait......
You cannot persuade me otherwise. It's objective facts lol.
If player 1 gets into beta from donating $ they will have some type of advantage of a non beta playing user at launch. Whether it be gameplay knowledge, boss mechanics, monster ai, town circumnavigation, etv...
You're the stubborn one, not me.
-The gameplay is the same, a fucking ARPG, click and spam skills.
-Vaal punch mechanics, evade the punch clicking away.
-Mosters AI, 2 attacks max.
-Town ... well this is a not OPEN WORLD RPG.
Also, i repeat the question.
What if GGG decide to nerf streamers most common build?
What happen?
How does a streamers build being nerfed have any relevance to how closed beta players have an advantage? Please explain.
"Good thing they nerfed the carto, it wasn't fun to find one in every map." - Haborym
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Posted bymonkuar#2123on Apr 23, 2015, 3:14:30 PM
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monkuar wrote:
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Munion wrote:
He still would have known about vaal smash, It has an extremely easy tell. None of the PoE fights are too hard mechanically to learn from a video. I guess you consider every beta with a payed key p2w then... I'm sorry then, that must really suck hating on so many games for doing something extremely common.
'He still would have known about vaal smash', Yea I'm curious where you grabbed this statement from? Out of thin air in the Himalayas? The player 2 WOULD HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE GAME. How would he KNOW abut the boss Mechanics? Your argument is literally worse than magic.
I guess i need to retype everything every post for you then.
"You claimed player 2 had an advantage because he knew about a boss mechanic from closed beta. A mechanic that did NOT change.... Player 1 if he cared about competing should have looked up the fight before going in, knowing it was in CB and CB had no NDA, and dying to the same mechanic... If he didn't care this is all irrelevant in this case and not p2w anyway..."
If you care about competing you do research. You watch the fight beforehand. No NDA means vids are out there. If you don't care about competing the p2w has no affect on you so moot point.
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Posted byMunion#0833on Apr 23, 2015, 3:14:35 PM
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Munion wrote:
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monkuar wrote:
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Munion wrote:
He still would have known about vaal smash, It has an extremely easy tell. None of the PoE fights are too hard mechanically to learn from a video. I guess you consider every beta with a payed key p2w then... I'm sorry then, that must really suck hating on so many games for doing something extremely common.
'He still would have known about vaal smash', Yea I'm curious where you grabbed this statement from? Out of thin air in the Himalayas? The player 2 WOULD HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE GAME. How would he KNOW abut the boss Mechanics? Your argument is literally worse than magic.
I guess i need to retype everything every post for you then.
"You claimed player 2 had an advantage because he knew about a boss mechanic from closed beta. A mechanic that did NOT change.... Player 1 if he cared about competing should have looked up the fight before going in, knowing it was in CB and CB had no NDA, and dying to the same mechanic... If he didn't care this is all irrelevant in this case and not p2w anyway..."
If you care about competing you do research. You watch the fight beforehand. No NDA means vids are out there. If you don't care about competing the p2w has no affect on you so moot point.
You're still missing the point.. Player 2 in my scenario has NO foreknowledge of the game whatsoever. Holy shit. How many times do I need to fucking explain this to you?
"Good thing they nerfed the carto, it wasn't fun to find one in every map." - Haborym Last edited by monkuar#2123 on Apr 23, 2015, 3:15:36 PM
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Posted bymonkuar#2123on Apr 23, 2015, 3:15:21 PM
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