The Awakening Item Page and Top-Tier Supporter Beta Access
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AdzPoE wrote:
Daresso and Kaom seem like pretty simple fights. Are you REALLY complaining that people get more practice on these than you will because of your lack of access?
That's my point exactly.They are 'likely' simple fights as you might tell, but someone fresh on the ladder as compared to someone who has been playing the closed beta for several months will be at a huge disadvantage. Why cant you guys grasp this?
"Good thing they nerfed the carto, it wasn't fun to find one in every map." - Haborym
Player 2 is prohibited from watching streamers or reading the forum?
As I said before and I"LL SAY IT AGAIN.
Glad to see you back in action!
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monkuar wrote:
Downloading the game, playing it using your own fingers, hotkeys, brain
I was planning on using Ken Jennings brain to play, but I guess that would be totally different. I'm trying to figure out how my F1 through F8 keys are totally different though.
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monkuar wrote:
is TOTALLY different than watching some nut-ball streamer playing it. For any game for that matter, not just POE. Totally different.
Dooood! Like totally awesome. Those nut ball streamers, who could watch them anyways? GGG should just print out the new league T-Shirts and mail them to the top 50 beta players now, since their advantage is so great.
You've convinced me with all the facts. No more need be said.
PoE Origins - Piety's story http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2081910
Nope. It's the fact that he let supporters into the beta that donated over a certain threshold. That was inappropriate and by the purest form literally P2W. Especially since the new leagues and the ladder that goes with it will be competitive. Obviously CB players will have an advantage. It's not fair and it's disrespectful to us loyal players who have been here far longer than most supporters but just havn't donated over $1,000...
I'm so sorry for not being able to donate that much, I really am. I wish I could, I really do.
Others may have addressed this since it's a few pages back by now, but I have to say something here. Ability to pay doesn't mean anything specific, but time invested doesn't either when you haven't invested any directly into the thing you're bloody well trying to argue about.
You may have been here for a couple of months of the end of the closed beta, which means you were here about 2 and a half months more than me. I get that you don't have the spare scratch to support the game financially. Not everyone does. Those of us that do, pay so that everyone gets a better game.
My point is, though, that with your account that has existed since December 2012, you have earned zero lifetime season points and zero challenges. You don't race. EVER. Exactly what competitive purity are you trying to defend here like you are its patron saint? You don't even play competitively!
This is 50 ludicrous pages of hypocrisy where you have just been blind to any and all logical thought that lies in any direction except utter agreement with your own point of view. I can only hope you are able to be more open minded about other topics in your daily life and that you don't hold on to that type of rage that seems to be getting infused into each post as the night goes further along. It isn't healthy.
*eats popcorn* this, and that is all. g'night everybody!
"Death -- an out modded concept; we sleep and we change."
Coming into this late, but how in high heaven does allowing Supporters into the beta make this Pay-to-Win? All beta characters will be wiped when the full release hits, so why is everyone crying? Also, it's not like beta players have access to any secret information. If you want to learn about the beta, but don't have a key, the information is all over the streams and all over this forum. I don't necessarily agree with giving Supporters who donate over a certain amount of money beta keys, but that doesn't mean this is Pay-to-Win. Stop. The. Crying.
Your argument holds no merit.
Looking up information about the game on wiki's and googling is cool, but, it's totally different than actually playing the game itself and fighting bosses. Not only that, but cirucunavigating through the new dungeons / finding your way around the new town, learning/strategizing around the bosses / monsters Artificial Intelligence, etc. Stuff like that is NOT available by just googling information. You need to play the game to experience it. That's my point.
You want it to be fair but someone is always going to have an advantage over you because you seem to refuse to go about collating knowledge by other means than that of in game experience.
Nope. It's the fact that he let supporters into the beta that donated over a certain threshold. That was inappropriate and by the purest form literally P2W. Especially since the new leagues and the ladder that goes with it will be competitive. Obviously CB players will have an advantage. It's not fair and it's disrespectful to us loyal players who have been here far longer than most supporters but just havn't donated over $1,000...
I'm so sorry for not being able to donate that much, I really am. I wish I could, I really do.
Others may have addressed this since it's a few pages back by now, but I have to say something here. Ability to pay doesn't mean anything specific, but time invested doesn't either when you haven't invested any directly into the thing you're bloody well trying to argue about.
You may have been here for a couple of months of the end of the closed beta, which means you were here about 2 and a half months more than me. I get that you don't have the spare scratch to support the game financially. Not everyone does. Those of us that do, pay so that everyone gets a better game.
My point is, though, that with your account that has existed since December 2012, you have earned zero lifetime season points and zero challenges. You don't race. EVER. Exactly what competitive purity are you trying to defend here like you are its patron saint? You don't even play competitively!
This is 50 ludicrous pages of hypocrisy where you have just been blind to any and all logical thought that lies in any direction except utter agreement with your own point of view. I can only hope you are able to be more open minded about other topics in your daily life and that you don't hold on to that type of rage that seems to be getting infused into each post as the night goes further along. It isn't healthy.
*eats popcorn* this, and that is all. g'night everybody!
That guy makes no argument.. just because I don't race doesn't mean I cannot say that the new leagues are competitive? Really? That's a fact.
And if you have CB access before others in a competition (that was PAID to get into, this TOPIC), that is pay 2 win. It's really that simple. By definition.
"Good thing they nerfed the carto, it wasn't fun to find one in every map." - Haborym
Last edited by monkuar#2123 on Apr 23, 2015, 11:08:06 PM
That's my point exactly.They are 'likely' simple fights as you might tell, but someone fresh on the ladder as compared to someone who has been playing the closed beta for several months will be at a huge disadvantage. Why cant you guys grasp this?
We try to grasp it, but we can't use your fingers or your brain to grasp it, so it looks totally different from our end.
Totally.
PoE Origins - Piety's story http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2081910
That's my point exactly.They are 'likely' simple fights as you might tell, but someone fresh on the ladder as compared to someone who has been playing the closed beta for several months will be at a huge disadvantage. Why cant you guys grasp this?
We try to grasp it, but we can't use your fingers or your brain to grasp it, so it looks totally different from our end.
Totally.
Yeah, you must believe watching someone playing a game on a stream is the same as playing the actual game then, right?
Totally.
"Good thing they nerfed the carto, it wasn't fun to find one in every map." - Haborym
Last edited by monkuar#2123 on Apr 23, 2015, 11:09:09 PM
That's my point exactly.They are 'likely' simple fights as you might tell, but someone fresh on the ladder as compared to someone who has been playing the closed beta for several months will be at a huge disadvantage. Why cant you guys grasp this?
We try to grasp it, but we can't use your fingers or your brain to grasp it, so it looks totally different from our end.
That guy makes no argument.. just because I don't race doesn't mean I cannot say that the new leagues are competitive? Really? That's a fact.
And if you have CB access before others in a competition (that was PAID to get into, this TOPIC), that is pay 2 win. It's really that simple. By definition. [/quote]
dude why do you care so much? it seems you take it easy and don't really try to compete for top anything anyway. Not that there's anything wrong with that, I'm just curious.
Daresso and Kaom seem like pretty simple fights. Are you REALLY complaining that people get more practice on these than you will because of your lack of access?
That's my point exactly.They are 'likely' simple fights as you might tell, but someone fresh on the ladder as compared to someone who has been playing the closed beta for several months will be at a huge disadvantage. Why cant you guys grasp this?
A huge disadvantage for what? Top 20 ladder finish? World First Hardcore Beast kill? I really don't think that's the only disadvantage you or anyone would face with the competition out there and it's really a very small one. By the way these accolades are probably considered the only ones worth competing for. If you have another example please do tell.
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Last edited by AdzPoE#5624 on Apr 23, 2015, 11:19:04 PM
