How the Closed Beta is going so far

That's some stupid move from GGG's side...

I mean, they're hosting a Free to play game but just plain close up all new content to 85.6% of players (factual numbers calculated from moons alignement).

When you're doing the beta of your game, it's usually to tease, gather data, server stresstests, core bug hunting and so on... Why doing it AGAIN? They were on alpha/beta for years, all the core parts are already rounded, the game found its players so teasing is not useful anymore.




tldr: let me play u twats.
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Kayuga wrote:
the main issue here for most people is not their dedication, rather their complete ignorance on how beta testing really works.

you have to understand that a developer does not only need a veteran player that knows every crack and corner of the game, who plays Hardcore and avoids certain boxes because they have an Exile or freeze them or is able to speedrun from 1 to 80 in the first 10 hours of playing.

a developer requires a healthy ratio between 'good' players that will be able to go through the content faster and encounter/find bugs and 'bad' players that will give a fresh perspective to the developers based on how they see the difficulty/skills/enemies/maps and so on.

what you people fail to understand, past the obvious lack of patience and extreme entitlement issues, is that games are programmes that HAVE TO be tested by noobs as well as vets.

you assume that video games are a product like any other that will be tested and refined by enlightened individuals (and you happen to be one of them, right?) and it has to be perfect.

well games do not work that way and if you have had any kind of contact with the industry, from a PR job to beta testing, you would know this.

it is not an elitist issue. it cannot be covered by thinking "Let's pull all the 1000+/supporter pack/100 level/streamers in and it will be perfect!"

CBTs exist to check bugs, are almost never complete, they crash, they frustrate.
OBTs exist to stress-test the servers, to provide the last feedback before a 'launch'.

the sad part is that most of you in here are just PoE veterans. you admit it yourself, you've been playing PoE since 2012 and you have over 2000+ hours and and and. are you really that blind that you can't realise how narrow minded this is? playing only 1 game? what perspective exactly will you offer with this insane dedication?

you will test and compare and contrast based on what? you haven't been playing much else based on your own quotes in this forum. what will you compare PoE with?

please, if you really believe you want to be part of a development process and help out, go play something else and be patient. become informed, clear your mind off PoE and come back later, play something else and become more able to judge issue and situations.

large post, i apologise, but those who want to read it, will.

one last rhetorical analogy in the off chance you realise what is going on.
let's assume we all have a car producing factory. we design and manufacture a new car. now here is the tricky part; who is going to test it and who do we want to sell it to?
do we only bring in Michael Schumacher or Lewis Hamilton to test drive the car? or do we also invite a 60 year-old grandmother, the local priest, an 19 year-old university student and a single mom?


the logic behind this is universal, not just Chris'.

tl;dr version; every planner requires input from a myriad different sources. fresh eyes bringing fresh perspectives. be patient and you might get in, to really feel what a CBT is all about, with all its problems/crashes/bugs.


When you have a culture of "beta" being the new way of giving content without polished standards (how long was gmail in "beta") instead of instilling the testing aspect of it, it's pretty natural to see a lot of people having different expectations from "beta" especially if they don't make a clear statement on the mission of the beta.

I think the whole beta/A4 fiasco is a perfect example of miscommunication and highlights the important of going beyond simply transparency. For this medium, it requires a proactive, explicit explanation of goals. If you don't make it clear to everyone, the space you leave behind can be filled with so many misguided thoughts.
Make the beta open.
Last edited by petden#0238 on Apr 22, 2015, 5:22:10 AM
Cool story Bro, can I have a cookie?[/quote]

sure if u can show me how to make them in game like in wow
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mirificel wrote:
the testing would go much faster if you invite people who know what they are doing been playing this game for almost 2years now (12h/days) most of it on hardcore leagues riped only 4 time in that time...

seems like you're 'overqualified' for the desired feedback :D
invited by timer @ 10.12.2011
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all that april 2015 accounts are "ofc" new players and not alt accounts.
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PoorJoy wrote:
all that april 2015 accounts are "ofc" new players and not alt accounts.


I agree, there is an advanced system, there is noway a single alt account can pass.
Glad I haven't gotten into the beta, means that I don't need to buy anymore packs.
I may not be a streamer, but my girlfriend is a screamer, I'm sure I can get her to yell out G.......G........G........

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Thanks as always for the update, Chris. I spent a fair amount of time yesterday watching several streamers, and comparing the various ways that each approaches being a beta tester. One in particular (ZiggyD) took the time to launch the NPC dialogues, read the environmental lore, and actually had the game soundtrack audible during his stream. Heck, we even got to watch him fill out his beta note sheet; that, in my opinion, is what being a beta tester is all about. Rory and Bex actually showed up in the chat room; seeing members of the development team interacting so closely with the community took me back to the days of closed beta. It was about as good a time as I can have watching someone else play a game.

Keep up the great work; and thanks again to Rory and Bex for stopping by and saying hi.
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