Calm down people and realize if u've played 1000+ hours they don't need to treat u special ur already addicted and will play when it's released anyway. u've paid/ supported the game good, u did that cause u enjoyed the game not for special treatment.
the only thing u have to complain about is the fact that the 1m race ends in a few days and we usually get hype about what next but we have nothing. hype for beta is hype for something upto 2 months away.
when i drops it'l be great as all ggg stuff is. but what now? will Tm/Bl be rolled into standard? what parts? when? events are fun but not for everyone. will there be no new content since december when Tm/Bl started until start of june?
your profile is cute
Joined:
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Thanx my bf didn't notice i was still logged in he convinced me to join.
Bet he'l be shitty if i get beta key and he still doesn't thought lol
Beta key invites, 0 characters, zero play time. Funny.
beta account join date posts last active
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413 wildstarere1 April 20, 2015 0 (0 posts per day) April 22, 2015
409 Test1993 April 13, 2015 0 (0 posts per day) April 13, 2015
387 eduaguiars April 21, 2015 0 (0 posts per day) April 21, 2015
386 mine9 April 21, 2015 0 (0 posts per day) April 21, 2015
This is also what i am wondering about. How to expect feedback from someone who never added any post on the forum. I would presume that this type of user will not add any feedback at all.
I understnad the need of unexperienced players, however it is hard to select unexperienced player that will actually add some feedback rather than try first few levels, find out that it is borring as the slow phase start haven't changed at all and move onto another game.
So the feedback from this player will be "ok, he played for 1 hour, then no additional sign in, so there is something wrong with the content within 1 hour of gameplay", or is it different?
I represent only myself, my own thought and believes. I am individual, not a representative of the community.
I am not speaking on behalf of someone else and I don't get offended by things that have nothing to do with me.
the main issue here for most people is not their dedication, rather their complete ignorance on how beta testing really works.
you have to understand that a developer does not only need a veteran player that knows every crack and corner of the game, who plays Hardcore and avoids certain boxes because they have an Exile or freeze them or is able to speedrun from 1 to 80 in the first 10 hours of playing.
a developer requires a healthy ratio between 'good' players that will be able to go through the content faster and encounter/find bugs and 'bad' players that will give a fresh perspective to the developers based on how they see the difficulty/skills/enemies/maps and so on.
what you people fail to understand, past the obvious lack of patience and extreme entitlement issues, is that games are programmes that HAVE TO be tested by noobs as well as vets.
you assume that video games are a product like any other that will be tested and refined by enlightened individuals (and you happen to be one of them, right?) and it has to be perfect.
well games do not work that way and if you have had any kind of contact with the industry, from a PR job to beta testing, you would know this.
it is not an elitist issue. it cannot be covered by thinking "Let's pull all the 1000+/supporter pack/100 level/streamers in and it will be perfect!"
CBTs exist to check bugs, are almost never complete, they crash, they frustrate.
OBTs exist to stress-test the servers, to provide the last feedback before a 'launch'.
the sad part is that most of you in here are just PoE veterans. you admit it yourself, you've been playing PoE since 2012 and you have over 2000+ hours and and and. are you really that blind that you can't realise how narrow minded this is? playing only 1 game? what perspective exactly will you offer with this insane dedication?
you will test and compare and contrast based on what? you haven't been playing much else based on your own quotes in this forum. what will you compare PoE with?
please, if you really believe you want to be part of a development process and help out, go play something else and be patient. become informed, clear your mind off PoE and come back later, play something else and become more able to judge issue and situations.
large post, i apologise, but those who want to read it, will.
one last rhetorical analogy in the off chance you realise what is going on.
let's assume we all have a car producing factory. we design and manufacture a new car. now here is the tricky part; who is going to test it and who do we want to sell it to?
do we only bring in Michael Schumacher or Lewis Hamilton to test drive the car? or do we also invite a 60 year-old grandmother, the local priest, an 19 year-old university student and a single mom?
the logic behind this is universal, not just Chris'.
tl;dr version; every planner requires input from a myriad different sources. fresh eyes bringing fresh perspectives. be patient and you might get in, to really feel what a CBT is all about, with all its problems/crashes/bugs.
If you assume that new players will do unexpected things and every action of every user is being logged than yes, getting players that will never type anything on the forums but will actually play the game is useful. Narrow vision of experienced player could never test skill combinations that are just way too shitty to be used by "vets".
I represent only myself, my own thought and believes. I am individual, not a representative of the community.
I am not speaking on behalf of someone else and I don't get offended by things that have nothing to do with me.
The best way I personally find
blood fruit December 8, 2012 12 (0.01 posts per day) and never logged
but heck yes now looking to get out and personally check beforehand
Am besten finde ich persönlich
blooddruit December 8, 2012 12 (0.01 posts per day) und noch nie eingeloggt
aber was solls suchen ja nun persönlich raus und überprüfen vorher ob der acc bespielt wird
Beta key invites, 0 characters, zero play time. Funny.
beta account join date posts last active
key
invite
no.
413 wildstarere1 April 20, 2015 0 (0 posts per day) April 22, 2015
409 Test1993 April 13, 2015 0 (0 posts per day) April 13, 2015
387 eduaguiars April 21, 2015 0 (0 posts per day) April 21, 2015
386 mine9 April 21, 2015 0 (0 posts per day) April 21, 2015
This is also what i am wondering about. How to expect feedback from someone who never added any post on the forum. I would presume that this type of user will not add any feedback at all.
I understnad the need of unexperienced players, however it is hard to select unexperienced player that will actually add some feedback rather than try first few levels, find out that it is borring as the slow phase start haven't changed at all and move onto another game.
So the feedback from this player will be "ok, he played for 1 hour, then no additional sign in, so there is something wrong with the content within 1 hour of gameplay", or is it different?
Forum posts aint everything. In most cases, user given feedback is worth of crap. Logs are that matter. When you can check step by step:
What person presses or does
Where does he go
How long does it take for him to get from A to B
What kind of support gems did he try out in his build
Which ones he felt comfortable with
How long does it take for him to understand what skill does (hover over it, insert into socket, try to kill stuff, get confused and start reading tooltip again, unsocket it from frustration)
I mean, you don't need to tell NSA anything, they will find you themselves what you did. Same goes here.
Last edited by WiseGuard#0800 on Apr 22, 2015, 5:17:56 AM
