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hi, I'm a new player. Thanks for your guild, I'm doing well with my Cold crit. non-CI Witch.
One small thing: in non-CI basic hybrid build, we should not forget "fitness" node - just next to "4% movement" node.
10% health and 20 strength is better than other 8% health nodes that we're picking.
Just an optimization.
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shibloble wrote:
Any suggestions for the next update would be nice!


You might scratch option b) (Am i willing to pay more for a weapon with life leech) from the Ghost Reaver section, as the only ll stat a weapon (or any other gear) can have is leech from PHYSICAL damage, which a cold witch doesn't deal. Only way to ll is to use the ll support gem.
(BTW i changed my mind on the usefulness of GR in the meantime: I think with CI you MUST take GR to do maps. Otherwise every time you get punctured equals death.)

Added info on the Added Chaos Damage section: ACD might look like a better option than added lightning damage, because of the higher base damage it deals, but chaos damage is NOT condidered elemental damage. Therfore none of the increased elmental damage nodes taken in the tree will increase its damage (but they will work with added lightning).
shavronnes wrapping isnt better then CI, in my opinion. Shavronnes wrappings relinks the Chaos damage to your Energy shield, CI Removes Chaos Dmaage Completely because you get IMMUNE to it. so you still take chaos damage but it just doesnt bypass your Energyshield if you take shavronnes wrapping you still need to find look for Life nodes, witch ci not. ALso you can take Zealoths oath for ES regen....
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Bada_Bing wrote:
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shibloble wrote:
Any suggestions for the next update would be nice!


You might scratch option b) (Am i willing to pay more for a weapon with life leech) from the Ghost Reaver section, as the only ll stat a weapon (or any other gear) can have is leech from PHYSICAL damage, which a cold witch doesn't deal. Only way to ll is to use the ll support gem.
(BTW i changed my mind on the usefulness of GR in the meantime: I think with CI you MUST take GR to do maps. Otherwise every time you get punctured equals death.)

Added info on the Added Chaos Damage section: ACD might look like a better option than added lightning damage, because of the higher base damage it deals, but chaos damage is NOT condidered elemental damage. Therfore none of the increased elmental damage nodes taken in the tree will increase its damage (but they will work with added lightning).


Thanks for the heads up

EDIT: Fixed :P

Also, never played around with ACD tbh, I have seen a few threads on it.
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Last edited by shibloble#2675 on Apr 3, 2013, 9:32:47 AM
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QuQu1992 wrote:
shavronnes wrapping isnt better then CI, in my opinion. Shavronnes wrappings relinks the Chaos damage to your Energy shield, CI Removes Chaos Dmaage Completely because you get IMMUNE to it. so you still take chaos damage but it just doesnt bypass your Energyshield if you take shavronnes wrapping you still need to find look for Life nodes, witch ci not. ALso you can take Zealoths oath for ES regen....


I have yet to see a single thread or even a post where people say shavronne's wrapping converts chaos into ES damage, all though, if you have a thread or some other proof, link it here.

Zealots Oath is too far away, and REGEN, without the nodes is quite worthless. Unless you get a huge amount on gear, at which point a hybrid build would be far better
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For anyone who was waiting, I finished, uploaded and linked the first video (starters guide to PoE) on the thread. Since I had more people ask for me to start at the basics, that's what I did. I expect creating a successful passive tree will happen around episode 4-5 (if we get there, never made a tut/help video before this one)

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QuQu1992 wrote:
shavronnes wrapping isnt better then CI, in my opinion. Shavronnes wrappings relinks the Chaos damage to your Energy shield, CI Removes Chaos Dmaage Completely because you get IMMUNE to it. so you still take chaos damage but it just doesnt bypass your Energyshield if you take shavronnes wrapping you still need to find look for Life nodes, witch ci not. ALso you can take Zealoths oath for ES regen....


You can take ZO with a ES/HP hybrid build too.
I think you miss the point about why SW is completly off balanced. If it were a passive node that you can take instead of CI EVERY rational person would pick it instead of CI. So yes, it is way way better than CI. With SW you can run auras on your life -> more auras and less stress on your manapool than with a CI build. You get 30% spelldamage increase with pain attunement -> not possible with CI. With the low lifepool + Zealots Oath + Springleaf you can run righteous fire (with inner force and pain attunement this will up your damage by 300%!!). Chaos damage? With ZO + Springleaf and a bit chaos resist on the gear, no problem at all.
Additional auras + better mana management + up to 300% extra damage vs a bit chaos damage on the ES? Not really a competition.
And no, you don't want extra life nodes, because you want to be on lowlife.
Shavronne's Wrapping forces you to look for gear that is a lot more expensive than the gear you'd need with CI.

That said, if you can afford or already have Chaos Res in your gear and spec (I'm thinking of hybrid HP/ES builds here) Shavronne's Wrapping is the stone cold nuts, if you're already CI I see no reason for speccing it out and changing your gear completely to accomodate it.

One minor correction for the guide:
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shibloble wrote:
The re-Buff?:
So a while ago, when GGG decided to buff the duelest tree they made changes elsewhere. What they did to CI didn't changed the actual skill, but added a few passives that give a TON of ES right onto it.

Break down
3 ponits - 8% each - 24% total
1 point - 20% - 20% total
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4 points - 44%

Although not near as good as the pre-nerf CI was, access to these nodes make CI EXTREMELY more attractive, but by NO MEANS makes it necessary. If you like CI, this buff will make you happier, if you don't it doesn't change anything.

It is up to you to decide on using CI or not
This is wrong.

Infused Shield gives you 20% MORE Energy Shield, meaning it's Multiplicative and not additive.

So from those 4 new nodes alone you get 24% ES + 20% of any ES nodes you have, making it a LOT better than a 20% additive node.

I'd say that if it's not better than the 50% additive bonus CI originally had, it's pretty damn close altho it takes more points to obtain.

Other than that, very in-depth and helpful guide!
Thanks for the great work!
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Last edited by Jiaozy#1490 on Apr 4, 2013, 6:02:49 PM
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Jiaozy wrote:
Shavronne's Wrapping forces you to look for gear that is a lot more expensive than the gear you'd need with CI.

That said, if you can afford or already have Chaos Res in your gear and spec (I'm thinking of hybrid HP/ES builds here) Shavronne's Wrapping is the stone cold nuts, if you're already CI I see no reason for speccing it out and changing your gear completely to accomodate it.

One minor correction for the guide:
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shibloble wrote:
The re-Buff?:
So a while ago, when GGG decided to buff the duelest tree they made changes elsewhere. What they did to CI didn't changed the actual skill, but added a few passives that give a TON of ES right onto it.

Break down
3 ponits - 8% each - 24% total
1 point - 20% - 20% total
------------------
4 points - 44%

Although not near as good as the pre-nerf CI was, access to these nodes make CI EXTREMELY more attractive, but by NO MEANS makes it necessary. If you like CI, this buff will make you happier, if you don't it doesn't change anything.

It is up to you to decide on using CI or not
This is wrong.

Infused Shield gives you 20% MORE Energy Shield, meaning it's Multiplicative and not additive.

So from those 4 new nodes alone you get 24% ES + 20% of any ES nodes you have, making it a LOT better than a 20% additive node.

I'd say that if it's not better than the 50% additive bonus CI originally had, it's pretty damn close altho it takes more points to obtain.

Other than that, very in-depth and helpful guide!
Thanks for the great work!


Thanks, I haven't been able to play for a while, just getting back into the game once again. Planning on re-rolling my witch, as I am disappointed with my earlier choices in the skill tree. Will fix that!
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Since people who are surfing these forums already have a little bit of experience. Would anybody be willing to tell me what you think of this new series?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOop4Lys2VE

What could I improve on, what's already good. Most importantly, do you think it's helpful to anyone?

Would like to make more, but don't want to give out the wrong info :P

(same video as in the video sections)

Comment on the video, or here. Video would be easier for me however.
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Last edited by shibloble#2675 on Apr 4, 2013, 7:09:38 PM

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