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GhostlightX wrote:

OK Freezing Pulse is your main nuke? In that case support it as follows:

a) Faster Projectiles: no brainer, it almost doubles the effective range. This gem is a MUST-have

b) Cold Penetration > all for boosting the damage of any Cold spell. Unlike abilities that % reduce cold resistance, Penetration is a flat subtraction, and can go below zero. Hence if you have 30% Cold Pen and the target has 10% Cold resist, your normal cold damage is boosted by 20%. That 20% more Cold damage when your cold damage is already super-boosted by your passives > any other extra Damage you could tag on such as 3-60 Lightning. I've tested this and the only other support that can come close in dps terms is Added Cold Damage itself (because it gets boosted by your passives). Furthermore, the more Cold damage you deal, the longer things stay frozen, so diluting or reducing your Cold damage is always bad.

c) LMP , GMP if you want, I dislike them on FP though

Other Contenders
Elemental Proliferation is decent, but works MUCH better on Cold Snap
Increased Critical Chance (flat DPS increase). Good but not as good as Cold Penetration
Life on Hit (though very costly in mana)

As for the curse to use....Frostbite only when you are facerolling / no danger of dying anyway. When things get genuinely dangerous you probably want Enfeeble or Temporal Chains instead.

I don't know where to begin here. You don't like using a support gem that increases your spell's dmg output by 2x? The great thing about path of exile is that you can do whatever you want. But there are some things that are pretty obvious. LMP + FP is one of those things. I can see the argument with gmp. In smaller packs or single target you miss 2 of your projectiles entirely. But LMP is hands down a must have on freezing pulse.

As for your other gems....Faster projectiles is not the no brainer. Quality freezing pulse is. You should buy this as soon as you can afford it. 12+ qual fp is better than a faster projectiles gem. For highest dps the combinations are as follows:

FP-LMP/GMP-Added lightning(for leveling and if you get enough cast speed with static blows to shock stack/added chaos/faster casting-cold pen-mana/life leech depending on your build

if you blood magic it you wouldn't use mana leech or faster casting it would be blood magic and life leech.

If you get a 6 link you would use iron will/item quantity/item rarity. In the off chance you want to get cute you can use Proliferation here. Crit chance and crit damage are the lowest of the support gems in term of "flat dmg increases" because they have diminishing returns. So they aren't flat increases. For 4+ links your options are more flexible and debatable. But your 3 link is pretty much going to be FP-LMP/gmp-added light/chaos/faster casting. That's technically an opinion, but it's also best practice.

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You don't like using a support gem that increases your spell's dmg output by 2x? The great thing about path of exile is that you can do whatever you want. But there are some things that are pretty obvious. LMP + FP is one of those things.

It's a personal thing. I dislike the cursor distance from caster mechanic that controls the apread arc. I can't get used it. I've tried.

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As for your other gems....Faster projectiles is not the no brainer. Quality freezing pulse is.

The question was what to support FP with. Faster Projectiles greatly increases the range at which FP will still deal full damage and freeze reliably. It's almost a whole new spell; almost like that gem was designed for FP (since it is meh for most other skills). I stand by the recommendation.

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GhostlightX wrote:

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You don't like using a support gem that increases your spell's dmg output by 2x? The great thing about path of exile is that you can do whatever you want. But there are some things that are pretty obvious. LMP + FP is one of those things.

It's a personal thing. I dislike the cursor distance from caster mechanic that controls the apread arc. I can't get used it. I've tried.

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As for your other gems....Faster projectiles is not the no brainer. Quality freezing pulse is.

The question was what to support FP with. Faster Projectiles greatly increases the rangeat which FP will still deal full damage and freeze reliably. It's almost a whole new spell; almost like that gem was designed for FP (since it is meh for most other skills). I stand by the recommendation.

20% quality freezing pulse does what a level 17 faster projectiles does. Thereby freeing up a slot for a better support gem. You stand by a bad reccommendation. Sorry for being blunt.

I don't really know what else to say to you. Basically what you are saying is that you would rather drive 700 miles through the snow with a motorcycle while other people fly over it and when people tell you that flying is a much better way to accomplish this travel you say "well I prefer motorcycles".


I would accept a 20% faster projectiles gem in there somewhere. But I wouldn't use a non quality one over any other gem. Reason being is that the difference between 30% farther and 60% farther given the spread of the projectiles is MEH. Considering how you play a freeze pulser with heavy kiting and moving. You are generally only hitting or planning to hit half a screen in the direction you are casting. If you aren't using LMP then you have to caste more than once pulse to hit large groups. This is more dangerous at higher levels. You would be much better off doing more dmg up front than having your projectlies go 32% farther than an already increased range of 30% because the damage would kill your initial targets quicker.



edit: I explained my reasoning further for the guy.

Lachis, if you use 20% quality freezing pulse, what do you replace faster projectiles with?

What's your nuts for 4L, 5L, 6L?

Also, how do you GET a 20% quality freezing pulse? Sounds...expensive! :P

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GhostlightX wrote:

OK Freezing Pulse is your main nuke? In that case support it as follows:

a) Faster Projectiles: no brainer, it almost doubles the effective range. This gem is a MUST-have

b) Cold Penetration > all for boosting the damage of any Cold spell. Unlike abilities that % reduce cold resistance, Penetration is a flat subtraction, and can go below zero. Hence if you have 30% Cold Pen and the target has 10% Cold resist, your normal cold damage is boosted by 20%. That 20% more Cold damage when your cold damage is already super-boosted by your passives > any other extra Damage you could tag on such as 3-60 Lightning. I've tested this and the only other support that can come close in dps terms is Added Cold Damage itself (because it gets boosted by your passives). Furthermore, the more Cold damage you deal, the longer things stay frozen, so diluting or reducing your Cold damage is always bad.

c) LMP , GMP if you want, I dislike them on FP though

Other Contenders
Elemental Proliferation is decent, but works MUCH better on Cold Snap
Increased Critical Chance (flat DPS increase). Good but not as good as Cold Penetration
Life on Hit (though very costly in mana)

As for the curse to use....Frostbite only when you are facerolling / no danger of dying anyway. When things get genuinely dangerous you probably want Enfeeble or Temporal Chains instead.

A. I know I asked the question but I have to disagree with most of your points. Faster Projectiles isn't that good once you get quality on FP.

B. I wasn't sure if using Frostbite + Cold Penetration were worth using on top of each other over another support gem.

C. LMP reduces your damage by ~25% and then makes it so you shoot 3, which can all shoot in the exact same spot. So you lose 25% damage but gain 300%. Can't pass that up for sure.

I'm CI, so life leech is useless... I'm not sure about crit chance and cold pen though. I'm for sure using Frostbite for now, because of the freeze chance increase being practically required. IDK though.

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Zapados wrote:

Lachis, if you use 20% quality freezing pulse, what do you replace faster projectiles with?

What's your nuts for 4L, 5L, 6L?

Also, how do you GET a 20% quality freezing pulse? Sounds...expensive! :P

20% is ideal, 12% is enough. Get a 12% one. As I pointed out before the difference in projectile speed versus the damage gain from faster casting or other gems is astronomical. Basically faster projectiles lets you do the same damage to targets farther away, while otehr gems + qual Freezing pulse lets you do MORE dmg to targets closer and ALMOST as far away.

My ideal links are as follows:

Fp-LMP-added light-cold pen-mana leech | get cast speed in passive tree, static blows as well

Fp-lmp-faster casting-cold pen-mana leech | less cast speed nodes no static blows

fp-lmp-added light-blood magic-life leech |few build use this, get static blows

fp-lmp-added chaos-blood magic-life leech | same as above no static blows

Your first 4 link should be Fp-LMP-addedlight/chaos/cold pen-mana leech based on your build.

20% qual fp-20% qual gmp-20%qual FASTER PROJECTILES-20%Iron will-20%blood magic-20%life leech
the mecca (only if you go a STR build)

20%FP-20%GMP-20%Faster Projectiles-20%Cold pen-20%Mana leech-20%added chaos/light/faster casting | the other mecca, all depends on your build


Edit: crit chance and crit dmg are the lowest of the support gems in terms of dmg added. I don't ever recommend using them.

Edit x 2 : These are my personal reccomendations. You don't have to follow them.

Jesus Lachis, your answering everything left and right.

Don't mind me, keep on going, makes my life easier :P

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Lachis wrote:

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Zapados wrote:

Lachis, if you use 20% quality freezing pulse, what do you replace faster projectiles with?

What's your nuts for 4L, 5L, 6L?

Also, how do you GET a 20% quality freezing pulse? Sounds...expensive! :P

20% is ideal, 12% is enough. Get a 12% one. As I pointed out before the difference in projectile speed versus the damage gain from faster casting or other gems is astronomical. Basically faster projectiles lets you do the same damage to targets farther away, while otehr gems + qual Freezing pulse lets you do MORE dmg to targets closer and ALMOST as far away.

My ideal links are as follows:

Fp-LMP-added light-cold pen-mana leech | get cast speed in passive tree, static blows as well

Fp-lmp-faster casting-cold pen-mana leech | less cast speed nodes no static blows

fp-lmp-added light-blood magic-life leech |few build use this, get static blows

fp-lmp-added chaos-blood magic-life leech | same as above no static blows

Your first 4 link should be Fp-LMP-addedlight/chaos/cold pen-mana leech based on your build.

20% qual fp-20% qual gmp-20%qual FASTER PROJECTILES-20%Iron will-20%blood magic-20%life leech
the mecca (only if you go a STR build)

20%FP-20%GMP-20%Faster Projectiles-20%Cold pen-20%Mana leech-20%added chaos/light/faster casting | the other mecca, all depends on your build


Edit: crit chance and crit dmg are the lowest of the support gems in terms of dmg added. I don't ever recommend using them.

Edit x 2 : These are my personal reccomendations. You don't have to follow them.

I don't plan on getting static blows anytime soon... I'm CI. I guess you suggest mana leech instead of faster projectiles and lightning damage for faster casting?

FP - LMP - Faster Projectiles - Added Lightning Dmg - (test slot, haven't found anything too good here) 3L 2G are my links.


Would you guys use Eye of Chayula as CI? Or are rare necklace mods much better?

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Lachis wrote:

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GhostlightX wrote:

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You don't like using a support gem that increases your spell's dmg output by 2x? The great thing about path of exile is that you can do whatever you want. But there are some things that are pretty obvious. LMP + FP is one of those things.

It's a personal thing. I dislike the cursor distance from caster mechanic that controls the apread arc. I can't get used it. I've tried.

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As for your other gems....Faster projectiles is not the no brainer. Quality freezing pulse is.

The question was what to support FP with. Faster Projectiles greatly increases the rangeat which FP will still deal full damage and freeze reliably. It's almost a whole new spell; almost like that gem was designed for FP (since it is meh for most other skills). I stand by the recommendation.

20% quality freezing pulse does what a level 17 faster projectiles does. Thereby freeing up a slot for a better support gem. You stand by a bad reccommendation. Sorry for being blunt.

I don't really know what else to say to you. Basically what you are saying is that you would rather drive 700 miles through the snow with a motorcycle while other people fly over it and when people tell you that flying is a much better way to accomplish this travel you say "well I prefer motorcycles".

Nope. I'm saying I don't have a 20% FP, nor likely to in the near future.

I tried Mana Leech + Faster Casting. Seems awesome if I had a quality FP. Amazing amount of freezing. Just run in and invincible freeze mode. Just way too short of range, trying to buy a 12%+ now, thanks for all the tips.