Lightning Buzzsaw CoC

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aristona37 wrote:

Am I doing something wrong? My damage seems really weak.

Arc's tooltip is at 1200.

Ps. I don't want to use a secondary ST for PCs.

One big mistake your doing is crafting lightning damage on your gear. Your CoC spells do not gain any benefit whatsoever from increased lightning damage and only will be further increased by either increasing spell damage or through critical multiplier. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that is why Wrath aura is not incorporated into this build whatsoever.

Other than that, maybe just early days and you don't have enough critical strike chance yet?

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technova1000 wrote:

if a dagger has xxx% increased spell damage would that benefit the CoC spells???

Yes CoC spells would benefit from xxx% increased spell damage. Personally I don't know which one to focus on since I don't know which one gives the most value in terms of damage; critical strike multiplier or spell damage. I guess it's up to personal preference if you don't do the maths.

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aristona37 wrote:

Am I doing something wrong? My damage seems really weak.

Spoiler

Arc's tooltip is at 1200.

Ps. I don't want to use a secondary ST for PCs.

I don't see any lightning penetration gem linked to your main setup. This is the reason. Use Tabula Rasa if you don't have a 6L.

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aristona37 wrote:

Am I doing something wrong? My damage seems really weak.

Arc's tooltip is at 1200.

Ps. I don't want to use a secondary ST for PCs.

Because you don't use another ST you're essentially using a 4L for your main setup which... yea is a bit of a problem. You're missing out on either another spell or lightning pen. The other thing is I see no accuracy on any of your gear so that takes a real big chunk out of your potential. I imagine you're at the low 80s in chance to hit if you're lucky.

You can also get a different shield with far less ES but some spell damage instead. It'll boost your Arc dps by a lot.

I made two small videos showing off this build;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX9Yj7FvqHw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkP5paFY4qc

This dagger ok or should i go with more damage on it?

hi, im using this build and i've been wondering what are the best skill gems to solo bosses, and farming overall im at lvl 62 atm.
Mathil i assume you have tested these skills already, so i want to ask
Is lightning pen better than another offensive spell like freezing pulse?
for example ST-FP-arc-BL-GMP-COC or ST-FP-FP-FP-GMP-COC :DDDD
Also GC please and dont mind useless gems in eq, its temporary ;d

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dragnmith1 wrote:

This dagger ok or should i go with more damage on it?

That dagger is absolutely okay for this build. The basics for this build are there, high attack speed and high critical strike chance.

If you wanted more damage on your dagger you would aim for stats like xxx% spell damage, increased critical strike multiplier or xxx% increased critical strike chance for spells. Keep in mind that you won't be able to get all three on a dagger.

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clickfish wrote:

hi, im using this build and i've been wondering what are the best skill gems to solo bosses, and farming overall im at lvl 62 atm.

The first step would be to not be level 62, you can make it work at that level, but this build is far more passive dependant than it is gear or gem dependant. Once you get all the crit nodes, and a decent amount of damage, and obviously enough life to not die, then your main set-up should work just fine for bosses.

I've tried my set-up(A bit different from Mathil's, but that's much more a personal preference difference, than it is an actual functional difference.), and even on tougher bosses like Torture Chamber, that Academy guy, and etc. tend to die well enough(Only just hit level 80, so I haven't spent a huge amount of time in the really high level maps though). There are certainly better builds out there for taking out bosses and I wouldn't really recommend working out another 6L setup just for bosses, since in most cases it's more time than it's worth and you'll kill the boss well enough with just your normal set-up.

That being said, if you really do want to farm bosses with this build, then you probably can do it without too much trouble. I'd remove GMP and replace it with Faster Attacks, and try something like Flame Surge + Ice Spear.

Instead of Penetration, give Cold to Fire a go, since it acts like a more damage multiplier to Ice Spear, and allows Ice Spear to burn(the second stage of it should have a 95% crit chance with this build), thus also giving a more damage multiplier to Flame Surge. As an alternative you can just use a Three Dragons, and burn with Ice Spear naturally, and shock with Flame Surge, and have a similar effect. Truth be told, I haven't actually tested this set-up, but I imagine it would be pretty effectively kill bosses in either case.

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clickfish wrote:

Is lightning pen better than another offensive spell like freezing pulse?

It depends on the resists of who you're fighting, against an enemy with capped resists, penetration will effectively double your damage against that target, whereas an additional spell would be something closer to 50% more damage or something(depending on the actual spell you choose), which is significantly worse than penetration.

But against an enemy with no resists, then the amount of extra damage you do with penetration is equal to the amount of resistance the gem penetrates through. Which with a level 20 gem is something like 35% more damage. This would likely be less than using an additional spell. But that being said, you're probably demolishing any non-resistant enemies anyways, and you don't really need to do more damage to them, and it's just the resistant enemies that give you trouble. So Lightning Penetration is probably the way to go.

Heya,

Great build, having a blast with it so far. Nothing quite as satisfying as a4rcs and balls covering the screen mowing down enemies.

I am at work atm, so cannot try this, but why does one not use arc and freeze pulse? They are both big damage spells, so should mow down the enemy.

I have been using ball lightning and arc with good success, but just wondered on the above.

If I do not get an answer, I will try it out and let you guys know. I have the feeling I am missing the obvious though, never having used freeze pulse (or many spells for that matter).

Cheers,

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l33tsmurf wrote:

Heya,

Great build, having a blast with it so far. Nothing quite as satisfying as a4rcs and balls covering the screen mowing down enemies.

I am at work atm, so cannot try this, but why does one not use arc and freeze pulse? They are both big damage spells, so should mow down the enemy.

I have been using ball lightning and arc with good success, but just wondered on the above.

If I do not get an answer, I will try it out and let you guys know. I have the feeling I am missing the obvious though, never having used freeze pulse (or many spells for that matter).

Cheers,

Matt mentioned it in his video, when enemies shatter due to cold damage, arc doesn't chain. This would lead to a drop in DPS.