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Scarletsword wrote:
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DLimited wrote:
Is there any way we can make the Staff version Atziri-safe? Purity of Fire, Minion Life nodes/gem so they can tank a flameblast and keep attacking. Movespeed nodes to run around faster and manually dodge spells. Cast minions when you are safe to do so, even just having 4-5 out should be pretty good DPS.


I just did Atziri in the 1month-league with the staff version. I'll link you my build and gear.






Gear




Most of the items were actually pretty cheap. All the jewellery, the belt and the gloves were below 10c. The helmet and boots were selffound and the staff and chest were just about 2-3ex.



For the first two bosses I use 1-2 quicksilver flasks and the two ruby flasks are only used on Atziri. Grace is only used on the second boss.

You have to kill the tittybitch first on the second fight or it'll get really messy.

All I did on the Atziri fight was standing in the right corner, spam desecreate > flesh offering > spirits and alternating my two ruby flasks and health flasks. When she started spawning her healing adds I did nothing else but standing right on top of her. I had more than enough dps even without EE and the arc-totem.









Awesome job man. I haven't even attempted yet myself but look forward to it now.
So, you just stood in the corner and tanked her blasts with the flasks?

When you swapped out grace what did you swap with?

I've been thinking of using my coil as well (i've got 2). I like the gem setup you have. I figured a level 1 desecrate would be fine since it's only the corpses I'd need.

How often did you need to self cast immortal call? I'm guessing that's mostly for the first 2 fights, likely mostly for the trio.

Do you keep it like that or do you sometimes use cloak of defiance for maps?
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Scarletsword wrote:

All I did on the Atziri fight was standing in the right corner, spam desecreate > flesh offering > spirits and alternating my two ruby flasks and health flasks. When she started spawning her healing adds I did nothing else but standing right on top of her. I had more than enough dps even without EE and the arc-totem.


How many times were you able to do this successfully? Sounds like if you just get a bit unlucky and get targeted by an extra flameblast, you die.
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Last edited by Telbisjr#5339 on Jul 24, 2014, 5:00:53 PM
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Madcow1120 wrote:

So, you just stood in the corner and tanked her blasts with the flasks?


Right. The level 25 raging spirits do enough dmg to survive the whole thing with two rubys and two instant health flasks. But I only did this during the mirrorphase.

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Madcow1120 wrote:

When you swapped out grace what did you swap with?

I used grace for the second fight. For the first fight and Atziri i used hatred.

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Madcow1120 wrote:

I've been thinking of using my coil as well (i've got 2). I like the gem setup you have. I figured a level 1 desecrate would be fine since it's only the corpses I'd need.


I used the lightning coil just because of the physdmg on the second fight. I didn't try cloak of defiance at all because I felt like the phys reduction and the two purities with lightning coil were stronger even though I have both in the 1month.
A level 1 desecrate is just fine. I leveled mine just because I was leveling with a DD/flameblaster in the first week to increase clearspeed.

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Madcow1120 wrote:

How often did you need to self cast immortal call? I'm guessing that's mostly for the first 2 fights, likely mostly for the trio.


The first fight is a joke. Even on the first try it only took me about 20seconds. I don't even have to care if one of them enrages because the raging spirit dps is so high.

On the second fight you have to time it sometimes and it really comes down to rng. If you can burst down the tittybitch, you can even avoid using immortal call and instead kite them with a quicksilver flask.

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Madcow1120 wrote:

Do you keep it like that or do you sometimes use cloak of defiance for maps?


I'm keeping it like that for now because it feels more safe with the auras and the physredu but I used the cloak for leveling up to 87 I think and it should be fine for every mapboss in the game even without having 24+ raging spirits.

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MatrixFactor wrote:

How many times were you able to do this successfully? Sounds like if you just get a bit unlucky and get targeted by an extra flameblast, you die.


It was my second time actually trying and first time killing Atziri at all. I have never killed her before or even tried her. I wouldn't recommend the staff version for hc though.

Her flameblasts aren't really a problem. The mainphase with the big flameblasts only takes a few seconds because of the dps with flesh offering and raging spirits. That's the phase were i'm just standing on top of her and spaming spirits without moving. The same happens while the adds spawn.

You can even precast flesh offering and some spirits between the phases because the timewindow is so big. Which let's you skip a big part of the fight and incoming damage.

It's just the mirrorphase were i stood in the corner and really had to tank about 3-4 flameblasts. I could probably tank about 5-7 with my flasksetup and maybe 7-9 with a level20 purity of fire.

Btw the only reason why I was just standing there and tanked basically everything is because my boots don't have ms and my lightning warp is to slow to avoid flameblasts. You could avoid every single one with about 25% ms on the boots (which I tried getting by exalting them - 17% armour yay)and some Q on AA or a working lightning warp setup (incr. duration from skilltree - yay). After all it's was a really satisfying experience to kill her with this build. Only her puncture was a let down because I didn't expect it to do close to no damage at all with only 45% armour.
Last edited by Scarletsword#4354 on Jul 24, 2014, 5:46:20 PM
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Scarletsword wrote:

Btw the only reason why I was just standing there and tanked basically everything is because my boots don't have ms and my lightning warp is to slow to avoid flameblasts. You could avoid every single one with about 25% ms on the boots (which I tried getting by exalting them - 17% armour yay)and some Q on AA or a working lightning warp setup (incr. duration from skilltree - yay). After all it's was a really satisfying experience to kill her with this build. Only her puncture was a let down because I didn't expect it to do close to no damage at all with only 45% armour.


Yeah, first thing I saw was you had lightning warp. I'd change that setup to: Desecrate - Faster Attacks - Leap slam - Arc.

Toss arc in there to proc EE and also because you'd have a spare blue gem spot. You could leave faster casting in there if you think it's needed. OR you can put spell echo in there. It won't effect leap slam and I would assume it'd dual cast desecrate. Would need to see how long that takes.

Yeah, I asked about the coil vs cloak because if you add the 2 purities then your leftover mana may not be worth using MoM on the cloak. It may become more efficient to use the coil. Especially since with atziri you do want the 2 purities for extra max resists.
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Madcow1120 wrote:

Yeah, I asked about the coil vs cloak because if you add the 2 purities then your leftover mana may not be worth using MoM on the cloak. It may become more efficient to use the coil. Especially since with atziri you do want the 2 purities for extra max resists.


The cloak could be used if you have about 3k+ total mana, level 20 reduced mana and if you think MoM+higher AA and about 7-10% evasion is better than grace/hatred + ~40%phys from coil.

Sure, you get more manaregen which lets you use another amulet but you only profit from using that manaregen with AA and that means you would have to either corrupt an item for +1 to gemlevels and snapshot it with level2/3 empower(still only AA level 22-24) or you would use a +3 cold gems dagger/wand/scepter and a shield just so you won't waste all the beautiful mana but instead lose the awesome staffdps. You could get the +1 to gemlevels on your chest for your spirits, too but at some point it's just getting to expensive. I mean vaaling 6l-cloaks, really?

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Madcow1120 wrote:

Toss arc in there to proc EE and also because you'd have a spare blue gem spot. You could leave faster casting in there if you think it's needed. OR you can put spell echo in there. It won't effect leap slam and I would assume it'd dual cast desecrate. Would need to see how long that takes.


I've spec'd out of EE because my dps is high enough for every singleplayercontent in the game except uberatziri which I don't care about. I'll probably try to see if quality on warp, red. duration and faster casting are enough to make it useable(against atziri's flameblast) because i think it's faster than leap slam + faster attacks with a staff and faster casting is the reason why I put desecrate in the same link. If the warp won't work for me because of the incr. duration nodes below scion, i'll just use ms on a quality AA and my boots.

Last edited by Scarletsword#4354 on Jul 24, 2014, 8:00:14 PM
I dunno, you may have just gotten lucky with the split phase. If not then all the more props to you. I tried the fight with a 6L +2 staff which is more DPS than 5L +3, and Peppermint tried it with a 6L coil + saffell's + 21 purities. We both couldn't get past the split phase.
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MatrixFactor wrote:
I dunno, you may have just gotten lucky with the split phase. If not then all the more props to you. I tried the fight with a 6L +2 staff which is more DPS than 5L +3, and Peppermint tried it with a 6L coil + saffell's + 21 purities. We both couldn't get past the split phase.


The split phase is the hardest phase which is quite obvious, i guess. I might have gotten lucky with the stormcalls during this phase but all i'm trying is to burst one of the mirrors down. I don't care which one it is at all. The first reason for me to stand in the corner was my DD/flameblast leveling-companion. He told me that the stormcalls are less likely to spawn there.

It's harder to burst down the reflect-one which is again pretty obvious. What I'm trying to do is just to get as much dps out on one target as possible. When the phase starts and they're not attackable, i'm casting 2-3x desecrate > 3-4 spirits => flesh offering => spirits.
You should be able to counter the reflect-one with vaal haste.

A saffell's with 21purities would be somewhere around 87-90maxres, right? I don't really see how you can't tank enough flameblasts while chaining rubys because I only had 82fire- and lightningres. If the spirits are to low level, are they getting onehit by the stormcall which leads to a really long splitphase?

About the staff version, I don't really know what to say here. AA does a pretty good job, I think and that's why I took inner force even though my AA is only 19.

Like I said before, it was my second attempt on Atziri and I died twice to her. The first time was to a random stormcall while hitting the reflect-one and the second one was because I didn't go for full dps and didn't pop a ruby while getting hit by a big flameblast for the remaining 95% of my health.




About Atziri, I think it's mostly a tactical problem (and a skill problem too I guess). I've been trying to avoid damage where I should have been tanking and spamming. The corner thing I have never tried, but it sounds pretty solid.

I have kind of given up on Atziri anyway. It's not an enjoyable fight to me, the generals are annoying to do, and the rewards are meh. I don't think anyone would want to full-on farm Atziri with an SRS spec anyway - there are plenty of other builds that can do it easier, faster, and safer, for cheap.

On a side note, I am now experimenting on integrating Dominating Blow into the build, it's a looot of fun (aura and Nemesis mod rare minions FTW). Will report back when I get to something more solid.
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