[1.2.] Serge's Ultimate Ball Lightning (3 Versions: EB-MoM-AA / hybrid HP-ES Crit / CI Crit!)

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ComradeSerge wrote:

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twubbles wrote:

I'm here to help.

Thanks for your feedback! :)

That's all good to hear. The one thing you might want to take into consideration though when making public build posts is that many players don't have access to super-awesome endgame items. Maybe it's just my personal preference, but I think builds are more solid when they don't revolve around a number of expensive uniques and instead have a base build and then options to upgrade later on. I think just getting a Cloak of Defiance is enough of a feat for a new player, let alone the crazy expensive ele leech belt and doryianis scepters.

And TBHO I go with a lightning coil and high ele resists over CoD on my arc/BL witch. Coils tend to be easier to obtain (especially in fresh leagues) and offers much better physical mitigation than mind over matter provides. The damage mitigation from phys to lightning happens before the hit is applied, making what little armor you may have more effective. Just an option to consider.

Although, I think going CI is going to be the most optimal solution come 1.2 and you'll see a lot less life-based lightning witches running around. Even if you have to grab IR for armor, It's still way more point-efficient on the new tree than chasing down the sparse life nodes around the top of the skilltree or having to waste points going into the horribly inefficient templar area.

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twubbles wrote:

Although, I think going CI is going to be the most optimal solution come 1.2 and you'll see a lot less life-based lightning witches running around. Even if you have to grab IR for armor, It's still way more point-efficient on the new tree than chasing down the sparse life nodes around the top of the skilltree or having to waste points going into the horribly inefficient templar area.

Definitely agree on that :D

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GimmeCookies wrote:

just one question about your CI build, how are you suppose to keep yourself alive with no damage mitigation and no ghost reaver+lifeleech?

1) Armour/ES gear; 2) will go for Ghost Reaver, elemental leech attainable on gear from masters' benches (4 chaos for 1% lightning leech).

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GimmeCookies wrote:

just one question about your CI build, how are you suppose to keep yourself alive with no damage mitigation and no ghost reaver+lifeleech?

No damage mitigation? You can have 5 flasks for mitigation, most of which recharge on crit and are basically unlimited. That + flask nodes + CWDT Immortal Call makes you extremely tanky. You also still have Vaal Discipline for those really rough situations.

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ComradeSerge wrote:

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GimmeCookies wrote:

just one question about your CI build, how are you suppose to keep yourself alive with no damage mitigation and no ghost reaver+lifeleech?

1) Armour/ES gear; 2) will go for Ghost Reaver, elemental leech attainable on gear from masters' benches (4 chaos for 1% lightning leech).

Life leech is really nice, but more of a bonus than a requirement. If you get Doryanis items definitely spec into Ghost Reaver but you will be fine without them. People are really, really underestimating how strong unlimited flasks + 6k+ ES pool (with mediocre gear) + immortal call + vaal discpline are!

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ComradeSerge wrote:

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GimmeCookies wrote:

just one question about your CI build, how are you suppose to keep yourself alive with no damage mitigation and no ghost reaver+lifeleech?

1) Armour/ES gear; 2) will go for Ghost Reaver, elemental leech attainable on gear from masters' benches (4 chaos for 1% lightning leech).

1) i dont know if you have played Arc before but using ar/es as your sole damage mitigation in a CI setting will not work. you will be lacked of both es and ar. the only reason people go ar/es is when they are life base and use EB and arctic armor along with armor to mitigate damage 2) with 112 skill points +2 from bandit you are already at lvl93 . a working build should take no more than 105 points

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GimmeCookies wrote:

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ComradeSerge wrote:

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GimmeCookies wrote:

just one question about your CI build, how are you suppose to keep yourself alive with no damage mitigation and no ghost reaver+lifeleech?

1) Armour/ES gear; 2) will go for Ghost Reaver, elemental leech attainable on gear from masters' benches (4 chaos for 1% lightning leech).

1) i dont know if you have played Arc before but using ar/es as your sole damage mitigation in a CI setting will not work. you will be lacked of both es and ar. the only reason people go ar/es is when they are life base and use EB and arctic armor along with armor to mitigate damage 2) with 112 skill points +2 from bandit you are already at lvl93 . a working build should take no more than 105 points

Did you not read my comment at all? You have a ton of mitigation options. The only big downside to CI is dealing with reflect requires either playing super careful or getting ele leech + ghost reaver. I think this actually makes Ghost Reaver a requirement. This is my new tree suggestion.



Also Comrade, you should use Echo on Vaal Spark, unless I missed something where they changed it, it works and casts twice. Also Lightning Pen would be better than Added Lightning. Vaal Spark + GMP + Echo + Light Pen.

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Dmillz wrote:

Also Comrade, you should use Echo on Vaal Spark, unless I missed something where they changed it, it works and casts twice. Also Lightning Pen would be better than Added Lightning. Vaal Spark + GMP + Echo + Light Pen.

Good point, thanks!

Problem is, I also forgot vaal discipline... have to think about where to put it now...

Drop Increased AOE on the curses for it.

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Kanossa wrote:

Hi, could you please do some work and see if Lightning Strike Coc BL is viable? Thanks in advance.

Why don't you do it?

Also for those worried about lack of leech, just sub out Increased AOE for Life Leech gem...

How necessary is Increased AOE gem? The more I think about it the less I think it's needed. We have pretty good AOE clear without it and using Inc Crit Damage would provide way more single target. Or just sub in Life Leech to be a lot tankier...