[OUTDATED] Zivko's WoE + BoR build - Seems like the build is dead

What auras do you manage to use with the mana version of the build? And what about herald of ash?

Llght
You get life leech from blood rage. Build will work without any problems if you run it on mana, as long as you get 2% mana leech on any gear peace. I've tested it already and i'm 100% sure you can run a 5L on mana as long as you have mana leech and dynamo nodes. You might be able to do it even without dynamo if you take only 'Mana Flows' notable in duelist starting area. I haven't tried that, so i cant guarantee that its enough, but it might be so its worth testing imo.
I dont have time to do it myself atm, so you'll have to try it out yourself.


Zhultas
I've spent a log time playing this build, testing various different skill gems combinations, various mods on gear and adjusting skill tree to fully optimize the build. All that combined makes this build as good as it is and, though it might seem to you you've adjusted the build to the better, you didn't and you're heaving problems as result.
Reflect is a non-issue with this build. If you were following skill tree and gem setup i posted in the original post, you would not have problems with reflect. As proof of that you can check Apex run with commentary where Mirror Atziri is used as a target and all the reflected damage is completely and very easily outleeched. Miror Atziri reflects a lot more damage then regular reflect maps and reflect mobs do. I'm not 100% sure about value of reflect on her, but i think its equivalent to 2 levels of reflect (similar to fighting reflect packs on a reflect map).


dota_is_better
I would use the same aura setup on mana version of the build, Hatred + Purity of Elements + Purity of Fire, you need to take some 'reduced mana reservation' nodes so check mana version skill tree in original post.
Since Purity of Lightning and Purity of Fire are Blue and Red gems, and since for most of the maps and map bosses you dont need extra fire and lightning resistance, you have option of changing PoL and PoF with Purity of Elements and Herald of Ash. You would get more dps and improve your clear speed by doing so. For Atziri and Apex runs, its still better to run PoL and PoF instead.

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ogrec wrote:

Llght
You get life leech from blood rage. Build will work without any problems if you run it on mana, as long as you get 2% mana leech on any gear peace. I've tested it already and i'm 100% sure you can run a 5L on mana as long as you have mana leech and dynamo nodes. You might be able to do it even without dynamo if you take only 'Mana Flows' notable in duelist starting area. I haven't tried that, so i cant guarantee that its enough, but it might be so its worth testing imo.
I dont have time to do it myself atm, so you'll have to try it out yourself.

How much of a priority is it then to stack chaos resistance (for blood rage) in a 5L budget build?

ogrect, i played cleave in 6l with conc effect and it does considerably more dmg thant ds with melee splash, even more dmg than ds without melee splash. why are you playing ds?

As long as you get Purity of Flesh life+chaos res nodes and life regen nodes from templar and 'Combat Stamina' notable, you will have only slight degeneration from blood rage. Before patch 1.2.0, i always had a little bit of degeneration since i didn't have chaos res from tree and i never felt it's a problem or that its hurting my survivability.
If you really want no degeneration, you can run purity of elements and herald of ash instead of PoL and PoF since PoE gives cold resistance as well, reducing the amount of resistances and intelligence you need on gear. That makes it easier to find peaces that also give you some chaos resistance to support blood rage better.

Also, i've said it multiple time in this thread, so i should probably edit the guide and finally add it - while leveling i'm not using blood rage but life leech amulet, preferably carnage heart. I switch to stone of lazhwar when i start doing lvl 70 or 71 maps. On non-map areas or lowel level maps spell block is not as important as in mid or higher level maps. Also, lack of regen and chaos res makes it difficult to sustain blood rage so life leech on gear is a better option while leveling.

Why you dont answer my question..?

I hate to say this man, but your guide is unorganized and confusing.

You have 4 trees in your guide. Higher Survivability, Mana version, Hybrid, and the forth completely different tree which is found under the spoiler box of lvling up guide.

Which tree is now the right one? Which tree is the lvling up progression tree supposed to mimic?

Which tree is optimal? Which one is even up to date/the most current version?

Well, my acrobatics rush HC guy is still alive at 71 Ogrec. He's pretty tanky, too. I've had a few close calls, but other then that I'm still alive.

I dont know if I can get a BoR anytime soon, though. They are super expensive on Beyond. Like 9-10 exalts expensive. Hell, WoE was 40 chaos to an 2ex for over 115 ed. Luckily, I found a guy for a 116 for 10c.

But yea, hes still alive and kicking. Im doing the mana build instead, but havent picked up any mana nodes, because I'm not using a 5 or 6l skill yet. I solved my mana problems with a leech item, but I still have to run Life leech gem in my 4l skill. I just dont have the chaos resist or the gear to run blood rage or no LL gem atm. Running primarily Herald of Ash/Hatred since my resists are capped, and I dont have a need for a purity atm.

Currently looking for a 5L of something to tide me over until I manage to get some exalts. I have about 4-5 atm.

Just doing solo Piety runs atm, but without MF so its almost just for the xp.

great build!

I like that Build. I use Cleave wich the following gem setup. The atack costs me 41 mana so I am able to substain it wich mana and without Blood Magic. Gives me about 40k dps.