[OUTDATED] Zivko's WoE + BoR build - Seems like the build is dead
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20/20 blood rage gives 10% life leech, not 9%. That being said, 8% is enough to hit leech rate cap.
I've been asked about blood rage many times and i'm getting tired of explaining. You lose ~500life with that skill tree and additional 1.5k dps blood rage provides, to be able to drop blood rage for what exaclty? No degeneration? With a bit of chaos resistance and life regen, degeneration from blood rage is already outregenerated. No worries about chaos on gear? Now you have to worry about leech on gear. And chaos doesn't only reduce blood rage degeneration, it also provides defense against chaos damage from map mods or enemies. Theres only downsides from dropping blood rage and replacing it with leech nodes on tree. If you were able to get life leech on gloves and both rings, a bit higher character level and phys damage on both rings (and preferably gloves too), you might be able to get phys portion of the dps high enough that only 6% life leech is enough to reach leech rate cap. Only then would it be a good idea to drop blood rage. Last edited by ogrec#7939 on Aug 27, 2014, 6:46:46 PM
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" I did forget about the frenzy charge on kill. Not under the blood rage section on first page completely whiffed on that. The attack speed from blood rage is a non factor since it's for low life and this isn't low life. It was just a thought since with leech on tree you'd technically have 4% increased effective life regen vs blood rage (chaos damage not present) and 5% life leech meaning 3% more to reach cap. You would have a little less life though at that passive point total. Just figure I'd try to add. Now I know :) Pacific (GMT -8) Time
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Hi mate really nice guide... im gonna give my duelist a try to your build, for apex farm only... so i was wondering why you did not used blood rage to farm apex in the vids (im thinking to get max life reg am i correct =? ) and how do you sustain without blood rage.. LL gem only in the bringer ? or you swap ring/gloves/tree for more LL ?? is the gem enough to sustain the whole apex hard fight (trio+atziri) ? ty and keep it going
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" Honestly, the only reason I wouldn't use blood rage is Hardcore, or Beyond mode. You can't risk it. SC you really dont have any reason not to. He links his CWDT anyways I think, so he isnt manually spamming it, and its free damage. I personally like your tree for maybe me, a Hardcore guy who cannot run or risk Blood Rage, at least not for a very long time, but for Softcore you should just go balls to the wall. Thats an extra 10 points for the leech nodes that could be spent on more damage on the tree. I will probably have to get some leech off the tree being in beyond league. But for Softcore running Blood Rage is a really good choice. Free frenzy charges, leech, and gives you 10 points to put into damage, like amplify, etc. |
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Chech the run here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHYriqrsLZc Even thou i use blood rage for mapping, there are few occasions when i exchange is for life leech gem, mainly for apex of sacrifice and for Palace Dominus. About apex, i skip trash mobs without blood rage and i use blood rage only in double vaal fight. In triboss fight immortal call, regen and flasks are enough to keep you alive until A'alai is dead, after that tentacle miscreations she spawns are enough to provide healing in combination with The Anvil (it has a mod that gives ~30-40 hp on block and due to 78% block it provides a lot of instant healing). For Atziri i switch melee splash with life leech gem. It has two benefits: 1) it gives more dps since there's no damage reduction from melee splash anymore 2) due to quality on it leech rate cap is higher (24% compared to 20%) and regeneration, which is usually used to support blood rage, is now entirely used to regen life; with that setup its possible to reach almost 30% life pool regeneration per second (life leech + regeneration) |
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So ive done atziri 4 time now , no problem with double vaal and the 3 guy but atziri is so random sometime i wont die sometime i can dit twice back to back.
Any tips for her? Edit : i just killed her after i wrote that and i used all the portal ... tough i was going to fail. Melee spash q20 help alot on adds phase? I have 75 spell block with phase acrobatic 79 fire res 78 light rest 5.2k life Last edited by Philss#6001 on Aug 28, 2014, 12:07:52 PM
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The price of mortal hope is going down, there are buyouts 18-20 ex.
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Philss
i've tried apex with my old 1mSC duelist lvl 83. you can check the gear i was using on it in 1st post. even when using that shitty gear i bought on 1mSC, a fight is a walk in the park compared to how it used to be before the patch. so i'm guessing you're trying to kill her with either a very under-leveled character or you have very bad gear and would be better off farming piety or dominus till you find/can afford upgrades... |
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" You need at least some life leech no matter what since all the skills use blood magic. Plus, despite playing softcore leagues I do not like to die. I don't have nearly enough time to invest in a hardcore league (can't 'oh well, just reroll'). I try not to die. The vorici mod allows for faster leech rate. Of course that'd mean you would need to craft something which could be difficult. As OP mentioned you'd miss out on the frenzy charges and a whole lot of dps. I had just enough time to get some gear on my character last night with max resists. Had to take 2 +30 INT nodes to cover purity of lightning though. Then I got called away so haven't played him yet. My helm has 3red 1 green. I'm running low on chromes to get all red. Should I do the dual strike or cleave variant? Which is better? Currently cleave - bm - multistrike (20/20) - Culling Strike (19/20) gear (I know there's a faster attacks gem in there it's not suppose to be)
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Pacific (GMT -8) Time Last edited by Madcow1120#4324 on Aug 28, 2014, 7:15:44 PM
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Is Culling Strike linked to Leap Slam a must?
I've been think about using a 3L+3L WoE with: CwDT(high level) + IC + Increase duration CwDT(low level) + EC + Enfeeble ...and switching Culling Strike to Blood Rage on my gloves: Leap Slam + Faster Attacks + Blood Rage + Blood Magic With this setup I can switch CwDT gems to Blood Magic whenever I need EC and IC selfcasted. And if I dont get a kill in ~16 seconds, I just cast Blood Rage again. So, is this a good idea? Or should I keep Culling Strike linked to Leap Slam? |
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