[OUTDATED] Zivko's WoE + BoR build - Seems like the build is dead

@Mannoth Cleave was mentioned in the thread before. Its hard to decide if Cleave is better or not then melee splash before actually testing the gem. Its definitely something to look out for, if it provides more dps then melee splash it would also increase dps of single target since it wouldnt suffer from reduced damage anymore.

@Patsn Theres two concerns i have with molten strike. One is small physical potion of the damage, less then 30% of the tooltip dps would be actually phyical damage you can leech from. So even 10% life leech from blood rage would not be enough to hit leech rate cap. Second concern is woe and no iron grip is far from best way to scale molten strike dps. If you're interested in molten strike, you should check blender 2.0, that build had molten strike variant which was scaled trough use of doryani catalyst > http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/965656/page/1

@kebal Theres no frenzy charges from blood rage so even without melee splash damage reduction, dps is pretty much the same.
Any suggestions on the best way to level up for this build?

EDIT: Not necessarily a tree, but skill. My assumption is to just play through with dual strike. Maybe a ST/Double Strike combo until Wing is acquired?
Last edited by jdweber1982#3908 on Aug 16, 2014, 5:08:58 PM
Still thinking about it.

In SC leagues i used to level with 2H weapon and molten strike + blood magic on tree till i had enough money to buy WoE, but new skill tree doesnt go anywhere near bm anymore. I used to level with dual wield in hc leagues, which was slower, but shouldnt be anymore with so many new dual wield points.

Leveling skills i'd be using in new league are dual strike and cleave (which is buffed now)

Leveling should look something like this imo:
Duelist start > https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgQAZU0UUkd-vYGZK4TZ1fjEuG5pvqfv4zSTY3Cbg1PfWNs=


DW block, damage and life > https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgQAZU0UUkd-vYGZK4TZ1fjEuG5pvqfv4zSTY3Cbg1PfWNtbr04qtkEJWNunwYsY29P8XLBKfYd2Z6D8xd0N

More damage, block and life > https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgQAZU0UUkd-vYGZK4TZ1fjEuG5pvqfv4zSTY3Cbg1PfWNtbr04qtkEJWNunwYsY29P8XLBKfYd2Z6D8xd0N2L01krXybqpKyD8nKk0VICzpHcoo29_v

Resolute Technique and more damage > https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgQAZU0UUkd-vYGZK4TZ1fjEuG5pvqfv4zSTY3Cbg1PfWNtbr04qtkEJWNunwYsY29P8XLBKfYd2Z6D8xd0N2L01krXybqpKyD8nKk0VICzpHcoo29_vfNlyqayqJ-3E9jwtxq63Pv4KOu1ttDXvgUE=

Sovereignty > https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgQAZU0UUkd-vYGZK4TZ1fjEuG5pvqfv4zSTY3Cbg1PfWNtbr04qtkEJWNunwYsY29P8XLBKfYd2Z6D8xd0N2L01krXybqpKyD8nKk0VICzpHcoo29_vfNlyqayqJ-3E9jwtxq63Pv4KOu1ttDXvgUEaOKeEkFXAGlnzgKQXL_rSZp5k51XW42o26Q==
Here i'd also take axe/sword/mace nodes, depending what i'm leveling with, but preferably axe nodes (Fell the weak)
After that its time to head into ranger area.

In terms of items, first thing build needs is Wings of Entropy and enough chaos can be farmed in fellshrine, city of sarn and docks for Wings. With wings its pretty easy to rush trough act 3 and start farming piety for enough currency to get Bringer of Rain and also build up 66 map pool (since piety drops decent amount of maps). If leech cant be obtained on the gear, its also a good option investing some currency in carnage heart which can be used instead or lazhwar and rainbowstrides in lower level maps (66-69). After starting lvl 70maps, usually around level 75+ depending on map drops, its time to start looking for rings, gloves and belt that would allow switching to rainbows, lazhwar and blood rage.

Last edited by ogrec#7939 on Aug 16, 2014, 5:12:37 PM
Sweet, levelling progress was just what I was waiting for! looks like we're pretty much good to go in 3 days :D
Last edited by SenpaiTypeBeat#4068 on Aug 16, 2014, 9:30:31 PM
Talking about lvl 100 passive tree. It is said "mana based for more dps" and the only difference are 8% mana reserved. How do these 8% mana reserved increase dps?
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kebal wrote:
Talking about lvl 100 passive tree. It is said "mana based for more dps" and the only difference are 8% mana reserved. How do these 8% mana reserved increase dps?

MANA BASE means u don't have to use Blood magic anymore = free 1 slot for another dps gem.
@orgec: i have the garena taiwan version so i'll test with both cleave and Ds to find out which 1 is better.
Thanks for the guide. I will try it in the new league. I just love meele builds, even if a ranged build as newbie is much safer ^^

Best regards,
Alex
Amazing work all around. This build has been great and it looks like it is going to be even better in 1.2.

I was going to ask about a leveling guide but you just posted one thank you very much for that.

farming the chaos recipe. Do you ID all your items? for the 1 chaos orb or ate you leaving then unID'ed for 2chaos? main thing i could see needing to ID would be rings/gloves/belts but is it worht it with Ilvl 60-70 gear?

as for buying a WoE and BoR should you be picky about stats on them? or just grab what you can then sell+add chaos to upgrade at a higher lvl?

Also what were the prices in the one month for theses items when you bought them in the first few days of the league. just looking to get a rough idea of how much it might cost as to not be gouged on the price.

this is my first time starting with a fresh league and i dont know how the markets will work for the first few days/weeks.

once again thanks for the work on these builds they have made playing this game a lot more fun and enjoyable.
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BlueJasminez wrote:
@orgec: i have the garena taiwan version so i'll test with both cleave and Ds to find out which 1 is better.

That would be awesome! Keep us posted, i'm sure everyone would appreciate it!

@DaMuffenMan
i id everyting at the start of the league as even moderately good items sell for more chaos then you get from doing un-id recipe. Also with shitty gear we have at the start of the league, theres a lot of room for upgrades and i prefer knowing if i'm vendoring something good or bad. BoR and WoE cost arount 2ex at the start of the leagues, Rainbowstrides 1ex, 1.5 for good roll, 2ex for good roll and offcolor sockets. Lazhwar is around 5c.
Last edited by ogrec#7939 on Aug 17, 2014, 4:03:41 AM
1moSC prices of items:
WoE - 1ex for a perfectly rolled physical damage. Got a 110+% for 6c 8 days into the league.
BoR - 2ex for a near perfect one. Bought the cheapest one 8 days into the league for 45c.
Ranbowstride - bought a 25% spell block for 18c 8 days into the league.
Hope this helps.

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