ReverendBizzarre: ele cleave templar [6k life, 45k+ dps]

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Aufwiedersehen wrote:

Hey Victor, this may have been answered but well shifting thru 46 pages.. lol

Anyway my question is, if you were to recommend getting any 20% Quality Gems for this build which would the most important ones be?

Thanks

its not very important which you get first, but i think its good to get a quality concentrated effect because it reduces the mana cost, life leech quality is good as well, then come the rest of gems

What's your opinion om cpnc vs increased aoe? I see a lot of people opting for the latter since nugi invented this build but personally don't find it being nearly as useful.

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VictorDoom wrote:

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Aufwiedersehen wrote:

Hey Victor, this may have been answered but well shifting thru 46 pages.. lol

Anyway my question is, if you were to recommend getting any 20% Quality Gems for this build which would the most important ones be?

Thanks

its not very important which you get first, but i think its good to get a quality concentrated effect because it reduces the mana cost, life leech quality is good as well, then come the rest of gems

Hmm well concentrated effect isn't added until i get a 5L which will be a long while lol so i'll wait on that, but you'd still suggest life over say weapon elemental damage? i have a 20% cleave allready since i found that i decided to try this build lol

But ya atm im looking for a 20% WED, but your saying to get Life Leech first and worry bout WED later? i only have enough currency for 1 20% atm.

Thanks!

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Loi wrote:

What's your opinion om cpnc vs increased aoe? I see a lot of people opting for the latter since nugi invented this build but personally don't find it being nearly as useful.

nugi didnt invent this build, i dont know where you or anyone got that from, i did this build way before he started playing path of exile, with my shadow, theres videos of it with me and feels months back, me soloing old closed beta maps etc. it started the ele cleaver in the last ladder of closed beta, he got the build idea from me, pretty sure he credited me in his streams as well since we are friends.

Even this thread is 2 months older than his cleaver, the original first posted elemental cleave thread i did of my shadow is from October 31st, thats a 1 month older than his account.



And its up to preference, i prefer doing more damage with CE, leeching more of it back, its safer in my opinion.

Yes that was sarcasm as alot of discussions I've had are with people who didnt know anything about cleave until he did it. I guess it was hard to pick up on but as I said I agreed with your choice of conc. Also do you like Sleep?

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Loi wrote:

Yes that was sarcasm as alot of discussions I've had are with people who didnt know anything about cleave until he did it. I guess it was hard to pick up on but as I said I agreed with your choice of conc. Also do you like Sleep?

Sorry, i get quite pissed when that happens since you can reckon its not the first time...

of course, i first listened to sleep around 8 years ago when a friend showed me the movie Gummo and the song dragonaut got stuck in my brain, fun times back then when we struggled really hard to find music, managed to get the Jerusalem album which is still my favorite one

by the way i recommend Om, its al cisneros' band he made after sleep broke up, very nice music, all of the stuff he released with Om is incredibly good, almost addictive music.

Good times indeed, same exact way I first heard of them. And yea I figured such which was why I made the joke. More on topic, is there any way to calculate the added elemental damage? I didn't know iftheres a sort of spreadsheet that would show the comparison between flat added damage vs. % added. Because of that its hard for me to see what is or isn't am upgrade.

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Loi wrote:

Good times indeed, same exact way I first heard of them. And yea I figured such which was why I made the joke. More on topic, is there any way to calculate the added elemental damage? I didn't know iftheres a sort of spreadsheet that would show the comparison between flat added damage vs. % added. Because of that its hard for me to see what is or isn't am upgrade.

I usually just eye ball it nowdays to be honest, usually ive noticed if you have a lot of flat elemental damage on gear, weapons etc, a belt and a ring with a 25-30% WeD mod will improve your damage more than if it was a flat elemental damage, as spreadsheets go i usually just slap out a piece of paper if i got time and im bored,

the maths isnt too hard to caluclate dps especially when you're using RT the forumla is:
{(min_damage + max_damage) / 2} * attacks_per_sec

I really like this build so far my ele cleave templar is level 71.

What I don't understand is why You decided to get master of the arena when the range doesn't apply to cleave? only aoe nodes apply to it. (confirmed by devs on this forum)

I have made my own variation which I think is a bit better.


On the way to Unwavering Stance I pick up diamond skin, golems blood + 2 8% health nodes and a 12% and berserking for 15% attack speed.

I feel as if unwavering stance is a must have for almost any melee class as being stunned is just a no no since when stunned you can't attack and if you can't attack you obviously don't leech. Since we are going to convert evasion to armor anyway seems like a no brainer? Also I do plan to fill in some more ele dmg/hp nodes later on.

My guy has some pretty shit gear besides decent swords/wakes and a decent resist ring. Currently I own the docks pretty hard and I can do maps but I tend to die a bit so I am running my 85 magic find witch to make some money to gear him.

Oh also I did take inner force obviously as it adds a good bit of dps being a 30% increase to each aura.

great build man and please don't take me for some kind of know it all just expressing my thoughts on the build.





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Riverside77 wrote:

What I don't understand is why You decided to get master of the arena when the range doesn't apply to cleave? only aoe nodes apply to it. (confirmed by devs on this forum)

I have made my own variation which I think is a bit better.


On the way to Unwavering Stance I pick up diamond skin, golems blood + 2 8% health nodes and a 12% and berserking for 15% attack speed.

I feel as if unwavering stance is a must have for almost any melee class as being stunned is just a no no since when stunned you can't attack and if you can't attack you obviously don't leech. Since we are going to convert evasion to armor anyway seems like a no brainer? Also I do plan to fill in some more ele dmg/hp nodes later on.




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First off the Arena thing passive is taken only so i can get to the life and armor next to it, i consider it just a str node since it doesnt do anything else, going through it is the shortest way of reaching the armor and life next to it.

Secondly, unwavering stance is not needed in this case, i never had any problems with stuns or getting stunlocked, those are the problems that lower life chars have that use low armor and CI chars have. Even when i do get stunned by a rhoa or something heavy hitting the duration is minute because of the large life pool and armor.

Problems with going that way are that you will have to sacrifice either an endurance charge,ele damage, static blows or life to get enough armor, another problem is its missing mana, that will give you a very hard time you will probably not be able to run a 3rd or 4th aura on your mana pool, the mana is pretty much necessary unless you plan on going blood magic, Beserking looks good but that build has less attack speed than my version.

The advantages over mine are that it has inner force and US, in my opinion sacrificing mana, armor and life is not worth it.