ReverendBizzarre: ele cleave templar [6k life, 45k+ dps]

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Kamilek77 wrote:

I am considering to change this build a little bit - no armor nodes,no iron reflexes => more hp nodes. What do you think? Can I sacrifice armor to get more hp? how does it work. Is armor really so useful in late game? armor=life, armor>life , armor<life?

You will need armor, its all i can say, builds that have NO armor at all take the full damage, i suggest you get at least some armor nodes if you want to ditch IR.

i llget armor from items. It should be like 2,5k and I would like to know is that enough to survive with more life nodes instead of armor? + endurance charges ofc;);>

Oh yea, we shouldnt run the auras(wrath and anger)at low level right? And I'm kind of running clarity at low level so i don't run out of mana so quickly ;o
And at what level should we try to run Vitality aura?;o

*sadpanda* died at the bandit ... no fun todie to a starting lag of the quest ...

I don't remember specifics but I started off being able to run 1 aura then 2, barely. I'm pretty sure it was a combination of getting the reduced mana cost and mana leech gems but I am now able to run both anger and wrath and still spam cleave. I want to say it got easier around level 40 or so. I have enough mana to cast purity as well but it doesn't leave enough for cleave yet. I suppose linking up purity with a reduced mana cost gem would help that too.

why grace and not determination? (the armour aura). and would you go Sheild in hc? (i will do maps)

so what is the whirling blade used for ?

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vild wrote:

why grace and not determination? (the armour aura). and would you go Sheild in hc? (i will do maps)

because grace offers a flat ammount of armor which is then increased by your passives, so its better than determination.

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Noobysad wrote:

so what is the whirling blade used for ?

Fast traveling, you can use leap slam for travel if you dont like whirling blades.

Why do you keep Cleave level 1?

Level Req Str Dex Mana Cost Damage Exp.
1 1 N/A N/A 7 N/A 70
2 2 N/A N/A 7 3% 308
3 4 N/A N/A 7 6% 2,560
4 8 15 N/A 7 9% 8,813
5 12 21 14 7 12% 22,895
6 16 26 18 8 15% 68,427
7 21 33 23 8 18% 150,439
8 26 39 27 8 21% 581,328
9 32 47 33 8 24% 566,989
10 38 55 38 8 27% 1,143,783

Because the increased physical dmg you get from leveling cleave has not really any great impact on your damage. But we talked about it earlier in this thread, you can level cleave to lvl 5, because as your data show, mana cost are raised with lvl 6.

@VictorDoom: Maybe you should point that out in your first posting, because this question is freqently recurring.