1.3 The Community's Molten Strike, Face Melting Build!! 1h+shield and 2h variants available
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sorry i'm a bit confused...
regarding the weapon elemental damage gem vs the melee physical damage... why is it better? they both got to about 18% total increase during their entire level span but the melee physical damage gem has less of a mana multiplier. i know that WED STARTS at 40% vs the 30% for melee physical, but i'm still having trouble understanding why that makes sense? for testing, i tried lvl one for both MPD and WED, and with WED my dps is 70 less. i know that's not that much. but i'm also confused as to what kind of weapon i should have as well. if you're using WED, does that mean that you're lookin for a 2h with more elemental dps? my mace only has like 5% of it's total dps coming from elemental damage so is that why it ends up being less? also, is iron grip's effect not reflected in the tooltip dps? i spec'd into it and tooltip dps did not change at all. |
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melee physical only works on the initial hit, and not with the projectiles. WED works on the initial hit (60% normal or 100% of it with AoF) and all 3 projectiles. Yes the tooltip may be lower with WED but overall dps is greater. See the spreadsheets.
pDPS is what really counts on weapons. You want as much as you can get. If there is elemental damage that comes with it, ok, bonus points. Physical DPS on your weapon is what scales Molten Strike. in regards to an elemental weapon for Molten Strike:its right there on the gem, converts physical damage to elemental. The more physical damage, the more damage you do with the initial hit thus increasing the damage of your projectiles. As Molten Strike only tool tips the initial hit, you will not see your dps increase with iron grip, concentrated effect, or point blank. If you want to see your true dps please use the spreadsheets. |
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jeebus thanks for the uberfast response (get some sleep ;) thanks for the info, i'll check out the spreadsheets outta bored curiosity but it sounds like ya'll (you, whoever) did some tight research and whatnot so i'll just take it as gospel for now :D
ps have you tried a vaal molten shell setup? i have it hooked up with increased duration, iron will and life gain on hit and it's clownishly murderous. i'm leveling fire penetration right now just cuz that's what i'm SUPPOSED to be using instead of LgoH but what i have right now is fantastic for survivability: I pretty much jump into the center of a crowd and while they do hit me, the explosions get life from everyone they hit etc etc. it's especially laughable against constant-damage type monsters like the voidbearers, or that mother of the hive projectile launching crawly critter thing... since they constantly hit me, i constantly proc it and it just destroys bosses shockingly fast. that stupid bladback guardian guy.... when he does his little fire nova thing -- it's all over. it's so damn good.... that i rip'd myself twice with it from a SURPRISE elemental reflect. |
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I have a 5l and am running a 1h sword and board with AoF any my setup is
Molten strike + BM Gem + Multi + WED + Life Leech. Do you think it is okay to not run fire penetration on the molten strike even though I am running AoF or maybe would it be better if i got bm from the passive tree and run fire pen instead of the gem. |
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" Are you running an aura? If so then what you have now is best. Using the passive means your aura reserves life and that descreases survivability a ton. What you can do is run Anger if you want to increase your dps. Also, a quality elemental weakness will lower resistances more than flammability. Pacific (GMT -8) Time
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" I run vaal molten shell - incr duration - vaal haste. When I farm piety as I run up the stairs to her fire portal (heh) I turn it on cause there's usually that pack at the top. Basically becomes explosions! and things die fast. It's certainly fun. I don't have it buffed like you do though. I also thought about vaal cyclone + lgoh for giggles if I had the gem slots. Pacific (GMT -8) Time
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" Isn't LoH better? Tvätta dina händer i min stjärt
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only at lower levels
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" yea i had vaal cyclone + LL + LgOH + blind because i'm super paranoid about dying, and then ended up dying to the molten shell reflect carelessness. listen man, i'm really tempted to make the switch. it sounds like ya'll really did the research, and the logic/math looks good, but i didn't see any "results" or "viable" or "here i am at lvl 83" type responses in the thread. then again i didn't read all 50+ pages... so i'm at a crucial turning point here. before it gets too regret-heavy, could you please have a look at what i'm workin with? i tried to import all my items so it could be a complete comparison, but for some reason i can't figure out how to save more than one build on poebuilder. it'd be a massive help if you could have a look. i pared down your tree to equal the points i HAVE available atm, i was hoping you'd have some input about this fork in the road i'm at.
my tree aka some ground slam build i modified
http://poebuilder.com/#character/AAAAAgEAAecCcQSzBS0OPBLhFCAUTRiRGjgaVRznIPAnLy3SMgkyfjboOlI62D38QKBE503YUEdXDVhjWK9Z818_YEthIWSjah5qO2xGcmxyqXK7dO14DXrvfNmBb4TvjHaMz5BVkc6ePJ65ns2fy6FtogCkrKcwp4SoGKloqW6sqrnNu-28n8AaxtjSIeOf7DjvDvAf8i_2SPcy974=
your tree pared down to my available skill points
http://poebuilder.com/#character/AAAAAgEAAnEEswUtDjwS4RRNFHEaOBpVG8gj9icvKaUyfjKJNug6Uj38QzFKfU4qVvpXDVfiWGNZ81pIW69eE18_YEthIWSjZp5noGoecql0QXTtdud35XrvfNmE74d2jM-QCpBVkc6ezZ_LogCkrKTCpzCnhKgYqWisqq-NtkG77byfwBrG2NIh3Q3jn-w47g7vDu_w8i_2SPcy_MU= I tried to post my items/info but i cannot due to the syntax and me not knowing how to comment out stuff. if you know how i can include |that huge wall of text that describes my setup| in a spoiler please let me know, if you're gonna have a look it'd be better if you had all the info :D |
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" If scared about getting hit one thing I do use that isn't on here is Spectral Throw - GMP - Blind. Works nicely. Toss it out a couple times now and again it's sweet. now for piety run s I swap out the blind for cullign strike and add item rarity. (I use to have this on my weapon swap, last shot I swap, toss this out, swap back but was a bit of a pain). As for your tree you can work with it I suppose. Not sure why you went Unwavering Stance before Iron Reflexes. I forget if this build uses iron reflexes (I don't). You're too resist heavy on the passives. I'd take some of those back. Your ES/Armor nodes won't be needed but you can keep them in until you get the 3 WED nodes (catalyst) that connects the tree. Berserker as well you can keep for now but it's a reach you don't need. Would you remain 2H? 1H and shield is very nice for defense and resists without giving up much dps. I'd likely Swap blood drinker for lava lash. Remove the extra cold and lightning passives you have right there and put them in WED nodes to grab catalyst. Not sure how many respec points you have left. In the end it maybe better to start fresh. Pacific (GMT -8) Time Last edited by Madcow1120#4324 on May 19, 2014, 6:00:53 PM
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