FoxTactic's - Righteous Arcer\Surgeon - No update for 1.2
" Very cool tree =), Fun to see people still resurrecting this build :D |
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" With only a level 20 pof, would the 0.8 additional regen from the scion start be enough to sustain rf? |
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Thx Fox, i think the build remains strong with the addition Herald of thunder which replaces the loss of haste. In addition, the rework of the Templar tree just makes the passive tree more efficient point-wise without the long route to marauder. The major difference is the loss of the maximum fire resistance. In patch 1.3 the build only be sitting on 92 fire resist without flask because it is not efficient point wise to go to get the +1 fire resist on the tree where life-regen is more readily available.
Sharpner, you can't. Lv21 Purity of fire + Lv3 empower = Lv24 Purity of Fire which gives +5 maximum fire resist. This build use aura effect nodes and buff effect nodes of 80% in total to buff the Purity of fire to give +9 maximum fire resist. RF burns with 90% Fire resist - 11.11%hp/s <-(Lv20-22 Purity of fire) 91% Fire resist - 9.98%hp/s <-(Lv20-22 Purity of fire +Barbarism node) 92% Fire resist - 9.07%hp/s <-(Lv23+ Purity of fire) 93% Fire resist - 7.94%hp/s <-(Lv23+ Purity of fire +Barbarism node) Current Tree Life regen 9.17% hp/s As a result, it is highly recommended you to buy one. I believe it is around 7ex in standard league. Alternative option: Spending points to get Arsonist (+1% life regen) and Barbarism (+1%fire resistance). This way you need to cut some damage nodes.
My 1.2 Gear
Current Stats Hp 4.8k Mana 264/2359 Arc 18.5k Flame surge26k Passive Tree http://poeurl.com/y7JjKjS Last edited by MinaGing#4046 on Dec 5, 2014, 6:36:41 AM
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" Thanks for the math. I should be good to go now to spec back into this. I ran it before 1.2 then switched to max block incinerate but man, i miss rf/arc a lot lol. Just for giggles though, have you ever seen what it'd take to go low life? Last edited by shrapner#3014 on Dec 6, 2014, 12:46:19 AM
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Just put together a quick tree what i thought was a good tree for rf arc. Was bored.
https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgMAB6WCEN-wSbIC4yycdhEQWDI05OwEBx8COlhVxoPbEQ-smEwtFLCCHtsLL2_ZE3C77BjBxYhCFm_60uNqNukkquQi1abtPFeUmjuCm-FzogAEs_AfaPJboKdVfA7sOBo4kFUnL8AacYXVdcy3sULauUbXQqMksBcvgKTr7riTJNiFbdWBU1JFnZrg-eiCxyj6xp4Qfwx9lKDaYmh0xq63PkGHU6UMXxyn2L3-ChkuJ-3E9jwtz36tjdlhCfbUfAYO3YzZX-ASjRl-r2aer2xM_836fIMRLX31wGYfxyt4 Might be a little to much Life regeneration in this tree, but to prove a point you can simply get over 10% easy with vitality. Some polish here and there to optimize the regeneration and some moving around of the dps nodes. But the highways of the tree would be as shown here. Some key stuff with the estimation of running PoF 21: 8% life reg, this is obviously to much lol. 126% max life, can move some nodes to buff this up, a lot of hp nodes to be taken. 63% buff to bring Purity of fire 5% up to 8% total fre res with phoenix, 92%. 75+8+8+1 Degen with 4500hp 4500x0.9=4050x0.08=324x1.21=392.04 degen. Regen with 4500hp 1.65x1.63=2.67+8=10.67=4500x0.1067=480.15 So as you can see i got a bit to much regeneration here so you can move the scion 0.4% nodes to other places. Point being, Running RF arc in 1.3 is "viable" as we say in poe Might actually do this tree in 1.3. Well see, wont promise anything. Last edited by FoxTactics#5240 on Dec 7, 2014, 12:34:04 PM
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WOW a new tree for Rf arc from Fox. I missed hearing another opinion on the build. It is an honor to discuss this build with Fox.
Very bold move on dropping the shadow side. Nice scaling of arc with Lightning dmg and elemental damage. One question, what auras will you be running for this build. It appears that you will be dropping some auras from not taking some reduce mana reserved nodes. (Note Empower+ purity will reserve more mana) Some random thoughts inspired by your tree. If you have so much life regen, why not go for more life regen and drop vitality as a whole. Getting fire resist = 5x 1.62(buff+aura) +8 +1 + 75 = 92 RF with 92% Fire resist burns - 9.07%hp/s Regen from tree = 9.8% A rough sketch of the skill tree https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgMAPC3Grrc-QYf56ILHKPrr7riTzfp8gxEt37BTpQxfHKeUoNpiaHRTUkWdmuBo8q9sTP9boKdVfA7Yvf4KAuNJsiycB6WCEASzogDwH8Bmmjvhc4KbJy_sOMAaGjiQVcaeEH8MfXGFzLfVdbFC1abtPNsLgh7B85UgbRkreB_HLYtqQ8BUCPS86msX-tJmnhcvZOeApFXWXz_BBN-KJNiFbdWBQ8jauUbXz37E9iftGS7ZYa2N0iFXDZ7NVbUJ9tR8Bg4vb9kTcLvsGMHFiEIksMRY9kg= -------------- Nevertheless, i still prefer my version of the skill tree. Acquiring those sweet nodes from shadow, life and cast speed. Making use of auras effect and buff effects nodes for sustaining rf (purity of fire vitality), for defense (AA Purity of lightning, clarity, in my case vaal grace too) and for offense (herald of thunder, and maybe rf too). Although it might not produce the best dps, it is super tanky. Some problems with my new tree -> a bit too much mana regen. Maybe I can drop the paua amulet with 80% mana regen and look for better ones. Last edited by MinaGing#4046 on Dec 8, 2014, 2:37:19 AM
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" EDIT: How come you didnt go through the Armour nodes in the marauder tree? Same amount of points. 64% Armour might be nice with hybrid Armour\Es gear? https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgMAPC3Grrc-QYf56ILHKPrr7riTzfp8gxEt37BTpQxfHKeUoNpiaHRTUkWdmuBo8q9sTP9boKdVfA7Yvf4KAuNJsiycB6WCEASzogDwH8Bmmjvhc4KbJy_sOMAaGjiQVcaeEH8MfXGFzLfVdbFC1abtPNsLgh7B85UgbRkreB_HLYtqQ8BUCPS86msX-tJmnhcvZOeApFXW34ok2IVt1YFDyNq5RtfPfsT2J-0ZLtlhrY1XDQn21HwGDi9v2RNwu-wYwcWIQiSwGj58uCku8axfP8RY9kg= Yeh this new tree looks very good, "A rough sketch of the skill tree" like the new route to EB. But holy crap lol, that amount of life regen that tree has is pretty amazing, lol. To tired to do the math when writing this. But yeh 9.8% looks like you can drop vitality easily. :D. Btw what do you mean "and maybe rf too)". Anyway, usually when it comes down with the manaregen its all dependent on what kind of gear you have, Pure sick ES based gear will bring a lot of mana to the table and you can remove it from the tree. So not gonna throw any points into regen out there. Didnt think of dropping the reduced mana nodes in the top left, as i said the tree wasnt 100%, just wanted to show the highways of the new tr. The more precise nodes need will need to be carefully selected through a playthrough :D. Auras would be vitality?, Clarity, Purity of light, Purity of fire... If possible herald of thunder. Might be a tough one to fit all this in. Possible with alphas maybe? AA is allways nice to have. But i smell a AA nerf in 1.3 well see. Vaal grace and vaal haste sounds like a lot of gem slots. No room for flame surge? Still the 7 points in marauder for maybe skipping vitality looks promising. Nice work. Makes me wonder about reflect aswell since the Total lightning res will be lower this time around since before 1.2 and room for vaal pact seems tough. Odds are ill be giving this build some love when i got a high char in 1.3 and a fair amount of respec points =P. You mean atziri's foible right? Atziri's foible is one the best amulets for an AA arc\rf build imo, untill you get better gear ofc, but you should never have them in the lategame. The amulet for a witch is the holy grail, A paua amulet with Prefix: Spelldamage, Life, %ES and Suffix: Castspeed, Lightningdmg and manaregeneration. That is the one and only Arc amulet. Sorry im all over the place in this comment, long day :D Last edited by FoxTactics#5240 on Dec 8, 2014, 3:10:38 PM
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" My bad. I auto assume armour is shit, that's what the game thought me GGG. " the stuff under divider is referring to my original tree linking to major aura nodes. http://poeurl.com/y76ZHVu " Without taking reduced mana reserved nodes, i believe you must take alpha's to make it worth. Assume 2000 mana, lv21 POF&P0L place in alpha's (so not using empower). The build will be able to run Clarity, POF, POL and HoT with 382 mana to spare. " assume around 20k arc dmg and no flask nodes. reaching 84 lightning resist without flask => give you some precious second of popping flask be4 reflect kills you. with topaz up, most reflect will be manageable (atziri reflect impossible without flask nodes; double ele reflect might still be problem) " If ggg nerf AA with mana drain, the build will be okay with that, since we get more mana regen from the new tree. If they nerf the damage reduction, it will be the league of lightning coil and cloak of defiance for sure. ------------------- Just tried Alluring Abyss with this build today. Failed miserably at double Vaal with 94 lightning resist(with topaz flask in effect) and a 4.8k hp pool. Might be because i don't have flask nodes or my skill not good enough. Still the damage those lighting damage it does is ridiculous. tanking is not an option. the changes of shock stacks to 1 stack 50% with vaal guarantee shock when laser hit. OPOP. With 20k arc damage i still find trouble clearing mobs spawn by vaal. The arc damage of this build requires to standstill dish out, but vaal's ball lighting/ laser just don't allow you to do that. I am slightly disappointed the build unable to do uber atziri (note this is not a cheap build, almost max spec.)
My Gears
Tree http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMAAnEC4wSzB6UI9AxfDH0NfA2ND6sQfxXnFm8WvxbzFy8Ziho4Go8cpxzcHaoi9CSqJLAk2CY8JpUn7Sj6LJwtRy9vL5026TwtQYdFnUZxSbJM_1BCUzVTUlOlVUtV1lcrV8lZ82HiZOdmnmh0akNsC2wWbRlwu3Ozf8aApIIQgh6Cx4MJhW2G0YcZiEKMNpBVkyeXl5rgm7WiAKeErKqvbLQMtz686r2CwBrAVMHFxPbFisaexq7Vgdi92RPbC9-K37DhiONq6QLquuvu7BjwH_Br9tr56PrS-wn8S_4K_rM= Last edited by MinaGing#4046 on Dec 9, 2014, 11:16:07 AM
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1.3 Update
   Passive Tree http://poeurl.com/y8tXXyL
Gears
Last edited by MinaGing#4046 on Dec 13, 2014, 5:30:09 AM
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Would appreciate if anyone would mind linking me to build tree but with scion would be helpful please
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